Can a New SNP emerge which speaks a new story of Scotland?
The scale of SNP defeat should not have taken anyone by surprise. It has been a long time coming, and is a long way down from Peak Nat. But it still shocked many, whilst others too sensitive have looked away from the resulting carnage.
This is what happens when parties experience defeat. Unity goes. The sense of shared purpose and direction diverges. And unless the SNP wake up, they could still fall much further. In particular, the 2026 Scottish elections now look as much a minefield to be negotiated and to survive than what was once seen as an opportunity.
Party defeats are by necessity painful for the faithful. But they are also an opportunity to learn, to reassess, to work out what has gone wrong and to change. The SNP face such a moment now which they must embrace. They need to thoroughly interrogate why the support and enthusiasm they enjoyed just a few years ago has waned away, and then appropriately respond.
There has been much over-the-top comment. ‘The SNP is so deep in its bubble of self-hatred, it is incapable of ruling Scotland’ opined Neil Mackay, predicting ‘a Scottish nationalist civil war’ that will be ‘uglier’ than the Tory civil war. Jim Sillars in an otherwise prescient piece described Sturgeon as ‘Stalin’s wee sister’; while former Labour MP Tom Harris added a new dimension to hyperbole in the Daily Mail calling the contemporary SNP ‘Braveheart Bolsheviks.’ For such a centrist political project there are a lot of references to Russia and 1917.
Some want to wallow in the catastrophe of the SNP collapse from 48 to nine seats. Others want to emphasise that, considering all the problems the party faces, holding on to 30.0% of the vote can be viewed as something of an achievement. Another take seeks succour in the argument that Scotland, like the rest of the UK, desperately wanted rid of the Tories and hence shifted to Labour.
Others want to cling to continuity. The SNP still have a ‘mandate’ from 2021, are still in government in Holyrood and are the largest party. In this take the Westminster election was an inconvenience in the hegemony of the SNP with all roads now focused on 2026.
For all the talk of disunity and division, many folk are keeping silent and saying nothing. This is particularly true of the SNP Holyrood Group. Sometimes silence can be a virtue but maybe not after a major reverse with this seeming to indicate little debate or thought.
The contours of SNP defeat are worth repeating. The party’s vote fell from 1,242,380 in 2019 to 724,758 in 2024 (half the SNP peak in 2015 of 1,454,436). It won 30.0% of the vote compared to Labour’s 35.3%; and is the first national contest that the SNP has lost since the Westminster election of 2010.
The party has been eviscerated in most of Scotland especially within its post-2014 heartlands in the Central Belt and West of Scotland where Labour has asserted its dominance. It has no Westminster representation in Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife or Ayrshire. Party finances have been massively hit. Whereas in the last Parliament the party got £1.3 million support per annum from Westminster via ‘Short money’ now with fewer MPs it will get £358,000 per year.
There have been the usual calls – Joanna Cherry criticising Sturgeon; Sturgeon responding defensively; Alex Neil calling on John Swinney to resign. The bigger picture is more complex. There is the cumulative cost of the Sturgeon leadership and a party which has forgotten how to debate, discuss and to practice internal democracy. Once forgotten, these things are difficult to reanimate and require conscious effort.
Any real debate must go past the usual blame game. While the Sturgeon leadership has to shoulder some of the blame, it is not solely responsible. The aftereffects of the Salmond leadership have taken a toll, as have the 17 years of incumbency which became too easy for too many years due to opposition weakness, and there is also the thin nature of what passes for social democracy in the SNP and the self-congratulatory nature of too much of Scottish nationalism.
Don’t Believe the Hype: The limits of talking to yourself
The SNP and independence over the past year has grown accustomed to talking to itself and thinking that it is a substitute for the nation. Post-2014 indyref, when Salmond announced his resignation the very next day he spoke not as the leader of the nation, but instead as the leader of Yes. He thanked the independence movement and had nothing to say to the majority who had voted to remain in the union. In short, he spoke as a factional leader, not a national leader.
This failing was reinforced in subsequent days with Sturgeon following the same pattern: playing up to and thanking the contribution of Yes and treating those who had not as invisible. Deliberately missing was an acknowledgement of ALL Scotland and its many different political shades. This absence of political leadership from the moment of the 2014 decision disastrously set the tone for the next few years.
From the Sturgeon coronation in Glasgow Hydro in November 2014 onward a shift occurred in the SNP. Political power was seen as flowing from the top down – with wisdom, decisions and what passed for strategy concentrated in increasingly few hands.
The post-2014 leadership was aided by the context after the indyref. People wanted to have their assumptions and beliefs about independence validated, and to have comforting truths told them that independence was on the road to inevitable victory.
Activists and supporters enjoyed the intoxication of nearly achieving success and the communal nature of the 2014 campaign, followed by the 2015 tsunami and the 2016 Scottish elections followed a month later by the Brexit vote where Scotland voted to Remain.
SNPers and many independence supporters were content then to not ask any questions and reduced politics to ‘trusting Nicola’. In retrospect, this fatal embrace and collusion needs addressing. Sturgeon told people what they wanted to hear and people interpreted her words how they wanted, omitting inconvenient facts and truths and tuning out difficult stuff – all of which amounted to a collective complicity in believing what you wanted to.
The inner world of the SNP
A major factor is the DNA and ethos of the SNP and wider independence. For many, criticising the SNP and independence has been seen as equivalent to disloyally attacking a member of the family. Cumulatively this has led to a detrimental culture which was happy to cheer and affirm in the upbeat good times, but which had nothing to say but silence in the downbeat, difficult times of retreat.
One veteran member said to me: ‘I guess we have grown used to not talking about the difficult stuff. Pretending Nicola had a secret plan. That Labour were just the same as the Tories. That it would all turn out alright.’
This has reinforced an attitude in the SNP and independence which has little to say on detail and nuance, and hence becomes slowly more detached from reality – whether about the SNP, its record in government or independence. Such cultures exist in all parties. Yet there is something deep in the specific DNA and ethos of the SNP and independence which has contributed to the current predicament.
First, until recently a major factor within the SNP was that it was very much an underdog party. It had to compete against the UK parties, the Scottish and British political establishments, and large swathes of Scottish society. This gave it a modus operandi but left it with a suspicion of external forces and realities.
Thus, the SNP has become an insider party of the political class, although this is not accepted by many members who draw from long memories of being outsiders. A senior activist told me that: ‘The experience for decades of being underdogs has meant too many in the party will excuse anything the party does in office, because they still see the SNP as this small force battling against the big beasts.’ Another activist reflected: ‘The SNP was forged in a time when they were unwelcome and despised. You grow a mantle. Then the indyref – such camaraderie and feeling of injustice when we fell short.’
Second, the cause of independence was once marginal in Scottish society. The psychology of going from the margins to the mainstream has left true believers uninterested on detail and in making difficult choices.
Third, Scottish nationalism continually tells us it is civic, benign and progressive. But it still a nationalism informed by ‘them’ and ‘us’, and a sense of who is in and not in, within the political community of Scotland. It is informed by having a degree of self-congratulation about the self-evident virtue of its cause which means it does not fully understand those resistant to its charms, namely Scottish unionism and unionists (while often not recognising not everyone who voted No can be described as unionist).
One SNP member told me: ‘We have always been a tribe with the strengths that flows from that. Belonging, being part of something bigger. But it has its drawbacks. Thinking that we are the good guys and that we stand for is self-evidently right.’
Finally, the above has been reinforced by a culture of SNP leadership that navigated the long road from the margins to the mainstream, both as a party and on independence. It is not an accident that as SNP popularity rose, Salmond and then Sturgeon were the objects of blind, unquestioning loyalty. Under both this eventually snapped, for many after they had left office, when their leadership was revealed as having long promoted apparition and pretence.
What is the future of the SNP?
Since 2007, the SNP has enjoyed unprecedented electoral success, and it is worth remembering the party had never won a national election until then. It has subsequently since won four Scottish elections in a row, been in government for seventeen years, remade the Scottish political landscape, and narrowly lost an independence referendum – and in doing so, transformed independence into one of the defining issues of Scotland.
This incredible story is worth re-emphasising. But success comes at a cost and all periods of ascendancy end for all political parties that achieve them. The era of high SNP – of imperious dominance and carrying all before it – is clearly over. The party cannot hope to continue as it has previously done and hope that success will follow. It will not because the political environment has changed, the SNP has changed, as have the nature of the challenges to be faced in the next few years.
The SNP must nurture a different kind of leadership, collective politics, style of government and version of Scotland’s future which moves on from the problem politics of recent times. This is easier said than done because while the party is still in government in Holyrood it now faces a resurgent Labour Party which is the majoritarian party in Scotland at Westminster and the UK.
One of the first aspects that the SNP needs to tackle is complacency and the propensity to not believe it needs to change. The party has a dwindling vote, membership and monies, but many of the old guard and senior members of the party believe that things were once tough and they eventually won in 2007 – and can do again. ‘In the 2007-2011 era, we had six MPs, but that didn’t stop our Scottish election victories in 2007 and 2011. Money is useful but it isn’t everything’ said Liz Lloyd in the FT, Sturgeon’s former chief of staff, in the aftermath of the SNP’s reverses.
Secondly, the wider party needs to take cognisance of what the modern SNP has become. Seventeen years of office have changed its parliamentary nature. It has created an insider class who developed a different take on power and politics. In short, SNP elites gave expression to post-democracy – the world of politics as one of managed, manipulated democracy by and for the interests of the elite.
Worse than this the inner core DNA and ethos of the SNP – that they were underdogs, outsiders, insurgents and challengers to the Scottish and British establishment – has aided the above by ignoring detail and reality.
Third, the timid social democracy and bourgeois nationalism of the SNP is inadequate and needs to be replaced by a new set of political values and perspectives. A long-term missing dimension in the SNP has been any critical understanding of power, self-government and self-determination.
A SNP informed by self-government and self-determination would be a party for whom independence was as much about shifting power within Scotland as well as to Scotland. It would not regard the transfer of formal powers from London to Edinburgh as an adequate prospectus. And related to this it would regard the future values and stories of Scotland as not waiting to be articulated only after independence, or solely about independence (more on which in the concluding essay in this series).
Talking about power within Scotland means understanding politics beyond the official story of Holyrood and progressive Scotland, and thinking about where the country has fallen short too many times. In the words of academic Christopher Silver the SNP ‘will need to learn to walk alongside the dispossessed, the poor and the disaffected in order to offer them a future worth voting for.’
Addressing the shortcomings of the Scottish Government’s record and public perceptions is needed. The just published Scottish Social Attitudes Survey shows that satisfaction with the NHS in Scotland has hit an all-time low at 23% (down from 64% in 2019), and trust in the Scottish Government to defend Scotland’s interests fallen dramatically to a new low of 47% (from a recent high of 71% in 2015), leading Mark McGeoghegan to note ’twenty-two months to turn that around is likely an impossible task.’
A new SNP does not happen effortlessly, by continuity or by the present leadership continuing to do what they are already doing. Realistically it has little chance of happening while the SNP remain in office. Internal change only occurs when aided by external change, and this is most likely to come with the 2026 Scottish elections that will be characterised by ultra-competition, the challenge of Labour, and the prospect of closing this era of SNP dominance. To add to this mix, these elections will be a multi-party fight with SNP, Labour, Tories, Lib Dems, Greens and Reform UK all competing for votes and representation (the latter winning 167,979 votes and 7.0% in Scotland in the recent elections).
Thursday 4 July was a wake-up call and a long time coming. The SNP must stop talking to itself, cease its fairy tales and falsehoods, and start facing inconvenient truths about their party, government and independence. Doing so now could begin the path that will inevitably begin post-2026 and post-Swinney, as the party will have to then map out a new political agenda.
There is no traction in the continuity SNP of recent times. A new generation needs to take back their party, listen to Scotland, break with delusions and pretences, and challenge the post-democratic values which have atrophied the SNP and blunted its political antenna.
I feel this is pretty accurate in its diagnosis of the problem. I am not sure about the solution or, if there is a solution, whether it is attainable.
I felt long ago that politicians in the SNP realised that it was better for their career to keep fighting for independence than to achieve independence, that independence would be the end of their careers and that Independence would be en end of the SNP. at least in its present form.
Why fight to grab a poisoned chalice?
As well as an argument for independence we need to find a way to ensure that the next election after independence does not result in a government that then votes to rejoin or recreate the union on terms disadvantageous to the Scottish people.
If we are to get independence one thing we need is to heal the lowland-highland division that has been here and damaging Scotland since the 13th century if not earlier.
There is little chance of hope of the SNP regaining the trust of the electorate until it regains the trust of its members until internal democracy is restored to its pre 2018 state. In recent years half of our membership decided not to renew their subscriptions and most of the former activists who remain in the party no longer campaign for it mainly because policy is now formed from the top down by the party leadership backed by the so called delegates of rotten boroughs of the post 2018 affiliated organisations which, together with the ex-officio members of the NEC now control that policy making body which is also the legal entity which owns the party’s assets and whose members are personally, jointly and severally liable for any debts which the party may incur. I have been a member of three of those affiliated organisations for four years and, unlike my local branch or CA, none of them has ever contacted me to inform me of meetings, submit motions, elect delegates or vote to mandate them let alone circulate accounts and minutes. So long as a few dozen unelected delegates of affiliated organisations exert such influence over the business of the NEC the party will become increasingly divorced from the concerns and opinions of its branch members. We used to be the most open, transparent and accountable political party but that ceased to be the case in 2018. With the combination of the loss of membership subscriptions, no donations reported to the Electoral Commission in recent months and the loss of just under £1m in Short Money from Westminster members of the NEC who have any assets such as savings, houses or pensions should be seeking legal advice as a matter of urgency. This might explain why so many places on the NEC were uncontested at the last conference and that some places were left unfilled.
The first thing the SNP need to do is talk to the voters who switched/ stayed at home on July 4th (just as they should have talked to No voters post 2014 referendum.)
The just one more heave strategy to achieve independence is dead. Westminster’s reluctance to agree to another referendum is going to require a consistent polling majority of>60% in favour of independence to either get Westminster’s agreement for a further referendum or pursuit of an alternative workable strategy. This is not on horizon at present.
I suspect SNP already know they will probably lose power in next Holyrood election. All they can do in meantime is try to be more competent, coherent and relevant to majority of electorate in next 2 years and hope that Labour become unpopular nationally.
I agree with article that if SNP are out of power post 2026 Holyrood election this should make it easier to have a frank and open debate about way forward for party and how to engage better with wider independence movement and electorate in Scotland. Perhaps the best way forward is to learn from devolution experience and set up of a Constitutional Convention open to not only all independence supporters but groups and individuals who do not support independence but are not opposed in principle
The idea of independence is established in the mind of many on the electorate, especially younger people, and it is highly unlikely it will just disappear as desired by Westminster parties.
‘the Sturgeon leadership has to shoulder some of the blame’
How much ? 5% ? 25 ? 50 ? I would go with the last number. Nicola used her position as First Minister to govern as an autocrat. She pretended to be an enlightened one but her legacy is overwhelmingly negative. The collapse in satisfaction with the NHS demonstrates this; from 64% before the pandemic to 23% in its aftermath. The pandemic was, of course, Nicola’s finest hour. Many voters gave her a great deal of trust and have since concluded that this trust was betrayed. Hell hath no fury like voters who allowed themselves to be hoodwinked.
Gerry Hassan describes the July 4th result as a ‘wake up call.’ It was far more than this. It was the end of a period of SNP dominance which had started in 2007. There is little sign of a ‘new generation’ ready to rebuild; another part of Nicola’s legacy.
I think it’s too soon to draw any conclusions about the next generation, until the previous generation gets off the stage.
The collapse of peak SNP is creating a vacuum, as a huge cohort of about 150-200 elected politicians and their paid staff leave the stage due to GE2024. That makes space some for a new generation, a gap which will opened up further when the SNP loses power in Holyrood.
Spot on!
Should the previous generation not have been ushered off the stage years ago ?
The fact that Fiona Hyslop, Angela Constance and Angus Robertson are still Cabinet members leads me to believe the the next generation has not been promoted due to a lack of confidence in them by successive First Ministers. If promoted now, it will be akin to substitutes in a football match being brought on only when the game is lost.
I am thinking less of the faces on the frontbench of an out-of-time govt, and more of the as-yet-unnoticed new blood which will drive a new strategy to win indy in the mid-late 2030s
This article does a great job of diagnosing the SNP’s problems and their cause. Itdoesn’t break new ground, but it didn’t need to. The SNP’s woes have been well picked-over, and Gerry draws them together well.
But I was disappointed by the weakness of the suggestions for the SNP’s future steps. “Listen to Scotland” is sound advice for any political party in Scotland, but it’s really little more than a rebuke to a party which has been listening only to itself. The challenge for any party is not so much in the listening as the filtering. Scotland, like any nation, has a lot of different voices, many of them mutually contradictory. The task for any major political party is to choose which voices carry the most weight, and which can be brought together under the umbrella of a particular party.
The SNP built its 2007 breakthrough and post-2015 ascendancy on the back of disillusioned Labour voters, many of whom turned back to Labour in 2024. Who does the SNP need to listen to now?
Thanks Claire for those thoughts. Am not trying to pretend in one essay I have all the answers; or can cover the ground even acknowledging all the problems.
First, the SNP have to stand for a politics beyond going with the grain of insipid centrist cautious social democracy, mainstream Scottish nationalism, & the official story of devolution and Holyrood these past 25 years. All of the above are insider stories contributing and aiding the SNP’s transition into an insider party.
Second, the SNP has to develop an understanding of power and with it voice. So far the SNP has shown no interest in redistributing power within Scotland and nurturing collective voice(s). Third, this relates to how independence has to shift – being honest abt timescales and it not being as Sturgeon pretended round the corner, having a future set of stories and connecting to the wider challenges of democracy, the economy and the climate crisis (which with the exception of Net Zero policies and references to a Just Transition the SNP have had little original to say upon).
Finally, there are inherent problems in party politics and the form of leadership which Salmond and Sturgeon embodied is a dead-end. It can work for a while and deliver immediate results such as election victories. But it does not transform government, address the challenges of society and planet, and does not empower people or honestly face up to the big issues we have to in Scotland and beyond.
Is ‘insipid centrist cautious social democracy’ not a contradiction in terms, like ‘illiberal liberalism’ ? When it is insipid centrist and cautious it ceases to be social democracy. Scotland has such a thin history of social democracy it is best left out of discussions about Scottish politics.
The most obvious thing about the SNP collapse is the similarity to the Labour collapse between 2007 and 2015. This suggests something lacking in our society.
The whole of planetary politics is under stress. Did the SNP do really badly? Did the Tory party do really badly? So what distinguishes these two otherwise totally immiscible political entities that simultaneously suffer catastrophic decline in this particular election in this particular time in this particular place? In my estimation, nothing, except circumstance. And that is the failure of the very systems that both govern us directly, i.e. the political realm, and the all the other systems apart from that realm that govern us indirectly, that’s the economic realm, our externalities, simple our existential reality. All are failing. In France, in Germany, in Europe, in the USA, and such failings will too come to China and the BRICs before they think.
Labour have gained hugely, today, but the realities of those externalities have not been addressed – Ukraine, Gaza, environmental destruction and serious pollution, global warming, gross and sociopathic inequality, serious taxation reform, the overweening and serious anti-democratic power of globalist corporate capital, political reform and sustainable industrial and energy investment. If Labour fail to address them, and there’s no sign they will do so in any adequate way, they too will fail as will the whole country.
If any party wishes to survive, and the nation not to slip into some sort of dysfunctional autocratic state or unmanageable chaos and a loop of poverty and despair, then there needs to be a new and fundamental radicalism. I’ve written previously about the need for a “New Ecological Enlightenment” and at the minimum we need to be looking to plan, as best we can, for a future for the next 80 years at least, the life expectancy of any new born child in the Kingdom. We and the SNP should be promising every new-born child no less than that – a plan for their survivable future for the rest of their lives.
The Scottish Enlightenment, which I’ll remind those here, was an intellectual and moral flowering in a population of less than one and a half million people, with four or five universities (thinking of Marshal College in Aberdeen). Surely it is not beyonds Scotland’s five and a half million people to find thinkers of similar calibre to guide us to a more equable and less threatening future for us all? It will require abandoning capitalism in its triumphalism, to return it to the more mundane daily local interactions in our lives – our shops, our local services, our savings, our entertainment and holidays etc. . Corporates will need to be dismantled and returned to sovereign control, and all necessary human needs provided in other ways, – power, water, food, education, health, housing – cooperative, state, regional and local and citizen entities etc. There will have to be a massive economic retreat from globalisation and the world will of necessity have to get a lot larger again.
I don’t see anything like this ever discussed in any wider media outlet, it remains the debate in a few more “enlightened” circles and its penetration into ordinary political discourse is zero. I regularly listen to political commentary podcasts from the BBC, Guardian etc. and the discussions are to my ears totally inane and inadequate – as shallow and ephemeral as a puddle following a summer shower. And every single programme is the same, week in, week out. I only listen to gain some insight as to the nature of political discourse in the UK, and not merely retreat to the echo-chamber of more favoured outlets.
The SNP can continue its present trajectory as an irrelevant parochial political bit-player, or it can develop the courage to challenge pretty nearly everything that does need challenging in our modern society, because basically if we don’t, it won’t just be Scotland that’s stuffed.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22129540-900-a-new-green-enlightenment-will-define-our-age/
https://davidkorten.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Ecological-Civilization-and-the-New-Enlightenment-Tikkun-Fall-2017.pdf
and many other internet references found by Googling “New Ecological Enlightenment”. This is a term I invented for myself twenty years ago, but I make no claim for priority, others may have independently done the same for many years, I don’t know.
I was a member of the SNP for more than 40 years. I left in 2017 because I could no longer stomach the way the party was being led and managed. I agree that it will be for a new generation to do the rebuilding. That being so, I don’t think it will be a matter of taking anything back. It will be building anew. I hope that the new generation will value democracy and open debate more, and that it will commit itself to progressive and transformative change.
It begs the question of what is the SNP for?
This is not just about a party trying to reposition and define itself within a shifting political spectrum / changing times.
The ‘Labour is much the same as the Tories’ mantra is untrue but what is true is that Labour is much the same as the SNP. Except for Labour’s unionism. And Labour has residual depth of support going back for decades no matter their annihilation in recent years. The 2024 GE showed this.
The SNP has no obvious route to independence and there is no clear majority that supports it. How long can a party’s reason to be trade on the idea of how close they are to achieving independence in the face of the opposite reality?
The best voice for Scotland argument means little – any party leading Holyrood could claim to be the best voice for Scotland as it has nothing to do with independence, by definition of the SNP itself, who garnered their biggest electoral victories on the back of saying that. And any serious political party must attempt to represent all voters, whether they voted for them or not and they tried to do this, briefly, but they latterly changed their tune in hollow desperation (the plebiscitary election idea), and people saw this for what it was.
So once you remove the question of independence (justified as the SNP has no means to achieve it and it has no sustained significant majority support, an indictment of the party’s powers of persuasion), the SNP appears to be redundant. This is always a problem for a party that basically has only one headline aim and only one reason to be, a reason that is not deliverable despite 17 years in power. Everything else is pretty much covered by Labour (and the LibDems and Greens I suppose).
Niemand
SNP lost 500,000 votes at GE and Labour gained 350,000 votes. Tories also lost 400,000 votes.
I think you are correct that older voters who have recently switched to SNP switched back to Labour but I also think that a considerable number of Tories switched to Labour to beat SNP.
Some younger SNP voters probably switched to Greens and a significant number of SNP voters stayed at home.
The reason for this large switch in voters was due to:
1.wish to get Tories out of power
2.incumbency at Holyrood during cost of living crisis.
3.unhappiness with SNP both their performance at Holyrood and as a party.
4.no obvious strategy or route to independence.
I caution against your analysis of independence being dead as not only do polls indicate that country is evenly split on the issue but support is higher among younger demographics.
While the government at Holyrood has failed to get an independence referendum this is primarily due to Westminster refusing the request from Holyrood. It is telling that Labour will not identify under what criteria they would agree to another referendum- this might have given them a short term political advantage but could come back to haunt them. The argument that you (and Labour) have put forward that as they will not agree to an independence referendum the electorate should just forget about independence and vote Labour is fundamentally undemocratic. The way to reduce independence support in longer term is to improve Scotland economically, socially and with more powers being given to electorate via Holyrood.
The independence cause will not disappear but it will require support to be significantly above 50% and sustained over a significant period of time to either force a referendum or make alternative routes viable. In longer term this is not a bad thing as it will make for a more cohesive country if Scotland does become independent.
Don’t misunderstand me, I do not think the cause of independence at all dead and the polls clearly show it is not but the problem is sustaining interest in a party whose main aim is that but have barely progressed in that aim since 2014.
What I wonder about the SNP with regard to Labour and any criteria for triggering another referendum is have they really asked? I know it sounds a bit banal but is this not where clever politicking comes in? It would be quite difficult for Labour not to respond formally to serious approaches about such criteria but I am not convinced it has happened – the SNP seem to be purely reactive to unionist statements / positions. And if Labour didn’t respond seriously that would be a very good weapon to attack the so-called voluntary union with, especially a decade on now from Indyref 1. It could be a boost to persuading voters as the argument about being ‘trapped’ in the union would be inarguable. It would seem a win win approach.
Thanks for response- I am not aware whether SNP have made a formal request.
While a lot of people are saying that the GE result have undermined mandate for an independence referendum I am surprised that no one has pointed out that for first time the biggest party at Westminster from Scotland is also the biggest party from across UK. This may be a temporary situation but does eliminate one of the major cases for independence ie Scotland never get’s government at Westminster that it voted for.
I suspect it is almost inevitable SNP will lose power at Holyrood post 2026. How SNP responds to this outcome and whether it show’s humility and reaches out to independence movement and wider electorate will be crucial to SNP and independence prospects in 2030’s. In addition the performance of UK economy and devolved areas of responsibility such as NHS & education under a probable’ Labour led Holyrood government will also be important as to whether demand for independence rises or falls in next decade.
Thanks for this second article. I acknowledge the disclaimer that you are not in a position to offer solutions for the SNP, but that you are trying to identify key issues which might indicate ways forward for independence and for the SNP.
As others here and in other places have indicated independence and the SNP are not the same thing, but many, including myself, believe that the SNP (or new or altered party) is necessary for the attainment of independence. I am not a member, although I have in recent elections voted SNP. But for Holyrood and Council elections I have been able to support other parties and independent candidates.
I always viewed the SNP as having one overriding purpose – the pursuit of independence – and, as such, included people from across the political spectrum who are prepared to put aside differences to focus on the common aim.
However, life is not so simple, because the gaining of political office, while necessary to pursue the case for independence, also entails running administrations which have to fulfil other very important services and this entails facing up to the different political beliefs of the members of the party. Managing these tensions is difficult and as has been happening for several years, the strain is causing splits.
The members of the SNP have to face up to this. For non party members like myself, we have to consider how we can continue to pursue the goal of independence.
The General Election has changed things and we are having only glimpses of what Labour intends to do. Some things indicate improvements, but others indicate more of the same within a more overt English/British nationalism. Is Labour serious about strengthening and extending devolution? Can it do so without seriously addressing the constitution and the electoral system?
It is not just the SNP which has to do some serious thinking as we stumble about in a pretty foggy polity.
In his article, Gerry rightly identifies many limitations of the way that the SNP has operated while in power, particularly around an over-centralised approach to decision-making and reluctance to engage in open dialogue. However, I would suggest that it is important to retain a bit of perspective around the darkness of these times. Over 14 years of Tory rule, we lived through a relentless attack on public services, coupled with a consistent transfer of wealth into the hands of the privileged. In that context, the SNP fought a highly effective rearguard action to do what it could to preserve the living standards of vulnerable people in Scotland, and the quality of NHS services. The advent of a new Labour government in London – which seemed unlikely until relatively recently, has – hopefully – fundamentally changed that context, and the SNP needs to respond to that shift.