Undercurrent Ep3 – Scottish Independence

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Hosted by Cat Boyd, with singer Iona Fyfe, activist Jonathon Shafi, singer songwriter Hawaii_Fivo, Conservative councillor Jo Mowat, writer John Ferry, and ex Scottish Rugby Internationalist Norrie Rowan.

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  1. Jim Ferguson says:

    Iona Fyfe and Five Oh guy were fairly good, as for the rest you can hear a lot better at a Glasgow bus stop, sadly.

    1. Do you ever think to yourself ‘do you know what I’m not going to say that’?

    2. Duncan Disorderly says:

      Jim Ferguson, the empty bottle that masquerades as a man.

  2. norm says:

    Would have been good if John Ferry had been challenged on the *actual* economic damage that being in the UK causes, as opposed to hypothetical damage that independence may cause.

    Westminster is reformable, the British state is broken. Independence offers a chance to reorganise ourselves each as normal, modern democracies. Working with our neighbours where we need to (as does every other country in Europe), but the autonomy to follow our own interests.

    1. norm says:

      Shite, *Westminster is UNreformable

    2. Yeah I wondered about that as well Norm

  3. Dave says:

    Undercurrent Ep3: The question of how can Scotland do better economically with independence. Nobody could answer how.
    Here’s how: Eire, Norway and many other countries with the same approximately populations as Scotland are the wealthiest in the WORLD.
    Norway is number 2. Eire is number 5. None of these countries have anywhere near Scotland’s resources. All of the panelists should study this.

    None of the panelists seem to have heard of EFTA or ALBA.

    The SNP have dumbed down the majority of Scotland’s population.

  4. Dave says:

    Undercurrent Ep3: The question of how can Scotland do better economically with independence. Nobody could answer how.
    Here’s how: Eire, Norway and many other countries with the same approximately populations as Scotland are the wealthiest in the WORLD.
    Norway is number 2. Eire is number 5. None of these countries have anywhere near Scotland’s resources. All of the panelists should study this.

    None of the panelists seem to have heard of EFTA or ALBA.

  5. Dave says:

    Undercurrent Ep3: The question of how can Scotland do better economically with independence. Nobody could answer how.
    Here’s how: Eire, Norway and many other countries with the same approximately populations as Scotland are the wealthiest in the WORLD.
    Norway is number 2. Eire is number 5. None of these countries have anywhere near Scotland’s resources.

    None of the panelists seem to have heard of EFTA or ALBA.

  6. Gercon says:

    Most countries given the opportunity to be Independent vote yes.
    A modern ,wealthy, confident country not taking responsibility for itself, especially in the light of the disasterous condition of the U.K.,
    is surely unthinkable.
    We have a lot to discuss but please don’t be destructive from within.

    1. Dave says:

      Yes, Gercon, you are absolutely correct about sovereign countries like Scotland or Alba as I call it in our own language to be independent.
      I’m not quite sure what you mean be ‘destructive from within’. As an EX-member of the NU S.N.P. I left several years ago when it was obvious the FM Sturgeon never intended to lead Scotland to independence. The story was fed that the NU S.N.P. FM was the YES leader which she was not and never will be. FM Sturgeon has never stated that she herself wants independence. She has always said that it is up to the people of Scotland and then did everything in her power to shut up our voices. Just try contacting her and see what you are told. You’ll be told to contact the NU
      S.N.P. H.O. who will say thank you very much and bury any useful idea that you give them.
      It is Ms. Sturgeon who refuses to work with ALBA’s Alex Salmond not the other way around. If you wish Gercon I can give you a ton of examples of how she has manipulated YES voters into accepting her appeasement programme by shutting them up from criticizing her do-nothing since 2014 to promote Independence. Here just one example. A couple of weeks ago when Alba’s Kenny MacAskill and Neale Hanley stook up for our independence at Westminster and were thrown out NONE of the NU S.N.P. members supported them. They just sat there and did nothing. The FM then stated that they did the right thing would never walk out in the future. So they sit there ridiculed and laughed at by the 600 or so English MPs. They are a laughing stock as is FM Sturgeon and by extension all of Scotland.
      The fake story that by criticizing Ms Sturgeon will work against Independence is 100% wrong. IT WILL ENHANCE IT.

      In my post I mentioned a piece of information which is critical to the question of Scotland’s wealth. FM Sturgeon has deliberately buried that.
      And yes I sent that information to Ms Sturgeon several times, who refused to even to receive it and her aid a snippy individual told me to stop trying to contact the F.M. and to send the information to NU S.N.P. HQ which I did several times and got a thank you but it was buried. That is the same tactic used by the English owned and controlled media here.
      All parties must work together but the only one that refuses to is the NU S.N.P. under the current Murrell leadership.

      A sovereign Scotland does not need a referendum. The last election gave an overwhelming majority of seats to the NU S.N.P. and that was and is all that is necessary to declare independence.

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