England’s Dreaming
English fans and commentators are making a far better effort than Scotland’s in reflecting on their time at the Euros. Having made the tournament’s final the English manager has decided to stand down, having been turfed out after another abject and dismal tournament at the bottom of the group, the Scottish manager remains.
One nation is soul-searching the other is navel-gazing.
Making the case for Jürgen Klopp to take over Gareth Southgate’s role Barney Ronay argues that “The England manager is still the single most culturally and economically important figure in English football” which is strange but true, but also, in a searing indictment of the culture surrounding the game in England: “If this group of players and that embedded culture, boosted by one of the great coaches of the age can’t get closer to winning something, it probably is time to ask whether the problem, in the end, might just be us.”
There are things to be learnt from another losing final he argues.
“It is worth remembering just how dark, how grim, how poisonous some parts of the last European Championship final at Wembley were. The nation had spent the previous year and half sweating in its cave, dreaming of escape. It came out in joy, release, arse-rockets above the skyline, and finally in rage, tantrums and racist abuse. Some of the players still don’t seem to have fully recovered from the experience. The abuse, the questioning of competence and character, is an echo of that same inarticulate rage.”
Then – as now – the amount of racism thrown at Bukayo Saka and other young black players (like Marcus Rashford and Jadon Sancho after the defeat to Italy) is extraordinary and disgusting. If Southgate represented the antithesis of old-school English football culture in which racism is hard-wired, he never managed to wholly overcome this, nor could he.
Getting philosophical, Ronay continues: “And moving a little deeper, it is probably worth having a think about the culture the England team is required to reflect. There is a basic contradiction at the heart of football coming home. What kind of home is this exactly? What would it really mean if England had won this tournament? What method is the rest of the world supposed to admire and copy here? Create celebrity players. Have no coherent coaching school of your own. Rinse your national sport as a cash cow. Neglect your grassroots. Perhaps the real reason football can’t come home is because no adequate home has been constructed.”
You don’t get that in the Daily Record.
As England blundered their way to the final to the tune of Ten German Bombers and the inevitable failure, it was not the ridiculously over-hyped players or the crushing weight of national expectation for which there is almost no other output for English identity, but because of the reality that there is a chasm between England’s view of their footballing place in the world and their actual place in the world.
Having been given the most patsy qualification group ever and then the easiest group in the tournament, England stumbled into the final “high on the irresistible fumes of their own heroism” as Jonathan Liew had it.
The Southgate-Clarke dichotomy presents two very different footballing and national cultures. One is made-up of an air of expectant superiority – who else could talk (endlessly) of “58 years of hurt”, and what could that possibly mean in any other country than England? The other is one with an ingrained underdog status, (very) low expectations and a cringeworthy commitment to a caricature of the Tartan Army and a steadfast belief in glorious failure. Both are crippling outlooks to carry forward for different reasons.
The differences between footballing worlds north and south of the border used to be less, but are now vast – not just in expectations but in the sums of money swilling around. A few years ago the Scottish game had no sponsor, none at all, the people (nominally) in charge of it just couldn’t find one. Not one. The English Premier League famously has so much tv money it’s created a corporate monster of library-stadia and mobile phone-gazing fans with little or no connection to their clubs. Many have gigantic ghost-squads of players ‘earning’ eye-watering sums of what we still call ‘wages’. The Premier League, and its ridiculous amounts of cash, is both the driver for England’s great expectations, and the root cause of its own problems As Ronay writes: “… while England have some very good players, this can be misleading. English players win things, but they do so with Rodri, Luka Modric and Erling Haaland next to them while being managed by Pep Guardiola and Carlo Ancelotti.”
England, post-Brexit and now post-Southgate, doesn’t know what to make of itself. Scotland, post-indyref and post-Euros doesn’t either. We are the stories we tell ourselves about ourselves and the story we tell ourselves here is: “We aren’t very good, we shouldn’t expect to be any better. This is fine.” This is self-fulfilling. The story told in English culture is: “We are the best in the world and have only been denied footballing victory for 58 years by some cruel hoax against us.” This is increasingly – as ANOTHER Golden Generation goes by – just very funny.
But at least England have scribes and pundits able to really write and think about all of this. Here we have a culture of low or no expectation, complete deference to our national manager, and a governing body committed to a duopoly. We are a small country with a (relatively) poorly-funded league. Steve Clarke has actually got us to two consecutive tournaments. I get all that. But we did REALLY poorly and there has to be some consequence for that. We were 24th out of 24. He is direly / dreadfully negative and hyper-defensive (both on and off the pitch). Other small countries or our equivalent do far far better than Scotland – think of Iceland, Ireland, Denmark or Portugal. Yes they are all independent countries, well spotted. But as in everything else we can’t just suggest that everything will be solved at some future date.
Also, I don’t believe that we have terrible players at all, I think we have some of the best players for a very long time. We also have a domestic league which, despite being under-funded, under-sponsored and criminally governed is, miraculously very well supported. Now we need a national team to match the quality of that support.
‘a cringeworthy commitment to a caricature of the Tartan Army’ You what? The tartan army who were voted the best fans at Germany? I mean, I get you really don’t rate Clarke and that’s fine but to brazenly denounce the Tartan Army as that after what can only be described as an incredible display of Scottish culture, lapped up and lauded by our European neighbours and has been talked about as strengthening Scottish ties to Europe? Did all that just pass you by through the red mist?
Yes, I agree. I don’t understand dissing the Tartan Army. They, unlike the team, did us proud.
I wasn’t dissing the Tartan Army but the media’s attitude that we’re only here for the party, which in my mind, isn’t a good enough attitude and sets the scene for low expectations. Our supporters are among the best in the world. I do end by saying “we need a national team to match the quality of that support”.
Ok, it didn’t come across like that.
To be honest I think there is a lot of glossing over on this article and the idea that Steve Clarke is the carbon reflection of Scottish negativity is pretty distasteful. When he took over the national side, it was a shambles. He qualified us for two tournaments, almost a World cup too. Not very long ago we just had an exemplary qualifying campaign for a nation like Scotland and having been to most of the matches, the majority of the time was far from negative, from our players or manager. You can be a tight side deigned to counter, that doesn’t always equal negativity, despite what the press/pundits would have you believe. The central belt press hates his dry wit and short temper with them, a lot of that is born from his short shrift with the old firm and he clearly doesn’t suffer fools.
The glossing over in your article I would say doesn’t consider the player issues, of which there were many and the poor form leading up to the tournament, of the team and key players. You can blame Clarke for that of course but if you really analyse it, there’s a lot going on. Clarke has proven he is a good manager, capable of moments of excellent man management, squad building and very organised with normally a clear idea of how he wants the team to play. Maybe too clear and he will surely have realised that. Yes that went to pot in this tournament apart from the Swiss game in which we were at least equal as one of the tournaments form sides and the last euros wasn’t great either but that doesn’t mean he is the epitomy of negativity and darkness. You have to balance it all up. He deserves a chance because he’s earned that, it’s good in today’s kneejerk, throwaway football world that the tartan army have given him that respect. He’ll know that mistakes were made by him and yeah if he doesn’t learn from that or if he doesn’t think he can learn from that himself, he’ll probably resign or end up getting sacked this year or next. I was at a couple of the games and yes some of his decisions were baffling and his devotion to certain players has probably hamstrung him in a way but in reality the results were still pretty marginal barring the Germany game. He’ll be hurting as much as anyone because he is clearly an extremely passionate Scotland fan and an intelligent, emotional manager.
Thanks for the thoughtful reply. You make some very good points. Do you not think Clarke is culpable for sending out a team against Germany that seemed bereft of either a plan or seemingly up for it at all?
Of course, he’s the manager. But he’s not the be all and end all. The players had a nightmare, crawled into their shells and allowed themselves to be ran over time and again without anyone taking real responsibility on the ball. McGinn and McGregor were shocking, posted missing, as were most of them. That’s not all down to Clarke. He got it wrong against Germany, of course he did. Doesn’t mean he deserves to be denounced as a horrific manager off the back of that though, we are better than that. As I said, there’s a fair bit to consider, and it doesn’t begin and end with that game.
I don’t disagree with your assessment about Stevie Clarke and qualifying for tournaments.
However our performances when we get to tournaments are negative and uninspiring (embarrassing against Germany).
No one (other than Scots) will remember anything about Scotland at this tournament as a team. I cannot imagine anyone from outside Scotland looked forward to watching a game Scotland was involved in. In contrast other similar rated nations such as Switzerland, Austria, Georgia (in our qualifying group) will be remembered because they gave it a go and tried to entertain their supporters.
Jock Stein used to say that teams wore their overall’s to qualify and their good suits when they qualified. Under Stevie Clarke we appear only to wear overalls.
If it wasn’t for the supporters I would be tempted to say it is a bit pointless Scotland qualifying for competitions if they are going to be as negative and uninspiring as we have been in last two European Championships.
I think you’re being unduly harsh on England, who rode their luck in the first three rounds, but staged a stunning comeback against the Netherlands, and almost did the same against Spain. I didn’t want them to, obviously, but there was a moment there when I thought they would. England do have one quality on the pitch which we don’t: belief. That is reflected in Steve Clarke’s tactics (playing for a draw when we need a win) but also in what happens when good players (yes, we do have those) have the ball. If you don’t believe it’s going in the net, it’s not.
This is, as you rightly point out, political. Scots struggle to believe in and value ourselves culturally, politically, and in sport. It’s all connected.
Well to be fair its not really me being harsh on England its their own fans and media who set them up to win the tournament in Ally McLeod style
My impression is that that ‘set-up’ is now a bit of a joke. There is a sense that yes, England could win (and their recent record suggests that is not at all silly) but it probably won’t happen. “We are the best in the world and have only been denied footballing victory for 58 years by some cruel hoax against us” is a trope much more from the past than today, with the ‘best in the world’ replaced by second-best and the hoax by ‘we simply aren’t good enough’. You and Ronay makes some very good points, if a bit extreme (journalists eh?), though and we should not forget how positive a figure Southgate has been. Yes the racism marred 2020, but it was far outweighed by a realisation that English could also very much mean ‘black’. Is that true across the UK?
We used to have two mcilvanney brothers giving some real heft to sports coverage but for too long we’ve had succulent lamb coverage or its unworthy successors. Sport matters and can be seen to matter, but people who have had it tough were allowed to dream of something a bit more fun, for Scotland it was reaching the group stages after so many near misses, for England it was winning something again. We really weren’t as different as all that in terms of having hopes dashed.
For Scotland the primary was getting out of group stages which is now easier than it used to be as more teams go through- 16 now as opposed to 8 in earlier tournaments. When you look at some of the teams that made knockout stages it should not have been beyond Scotland eg Slovenia, Georgia who we finished above in qualifying group.
I would contend it is certainly no easier to reach a final as it is still 2 teams as it has always been.
So your comparison doesn’t match up with the reality. Even Wales and Northern Ireland made knockout stages in 2016.
English league is one of big five leagues in Europe and the other 4 countries have all won Euro’s on more than one occasion so you could argue England have underperformed over the years. I don’t think you can say they underperformed reaching final this time.
No I don’t think England underperformed…getting to the final was a good achievement, but their media and some fans obsession is with repeating 1966 which they didn’t do and haven’t done for all those times so they will be disappointed.
I was just saying for as long as I have been alive the Scottish media has been obsessing about us finally getting out of the group which for decades we have tried and failed to do… so disappointing those who had expected we would.
I agree it was very hard to get out of groups where 2 go through and 2 get knocked out but even when there was a chance for 3 teams to get through we didn’t manage to and as you say nations who are smaller and less fancied have made it out the group
The most patsy group ever. Really? Italy and Ukraine. Throw in North Macedonia who almost qualified for the last World Cup. If Mike thinks this is the easiest qualifying group ever he knows nothing about football.
I assumed he was referring to the group England were drawn in in Germany which was acknowledged by most as probably the easiest of the 6 groups.
What is it about the SWNT that you hate? Or is it all women in general? Why write “we need a national team” on the very day that our other national team squeak past Serbia to win their qualifying group on a match broadcast live by BBC Alba? Why not contrast and compare the England’s women’s team which apparently had a torrid time against Sweden? The influence of the USAmerican soccer culture on English and Scottish football is worth investigating in this respect (whether some vested interests plan to kill off football as a spectator sport is worth considering).
Regardless, the Anglo-British myth of fair play is always worth exploding, and for bonus points we can look at the French Empire too in this documentary:
The Rebel Game: Algeria and Sudan
“Football became a means of resistance to French colonial rule in Algeria and a counter to British colonialism in Sudan.”
https://www.aljazeera.com/program/al-jazeera-world/2024/7/9/the-rebel-game-algeria-and-sudan
England had a lot of good younger players and looking at the quality of football they played they probably underperformed a bit. Some pundits claimed they had the best players but these players are playing every week with a lot of top quality players which helps you look good and play to your very best. I would also contend that pundits down south are unaware of depth of quality in other countries apart from the very big names hence the ‘we have best players claim.’ Any impartial view of tournament would state that not only were Spain the best team but that they had best players some of whom didn’t play for Real or Barca.
Other countries had good players who underperformed as well eg Belgium and France.
The truth is that at the start of the tournament there were about 6 or 7 teams that you could make an argument to potentially win it England included. The reality is that Spain were head and shoulders above everyone else (won all 7 games) but even they required a slice of luck against Germany.
England did get a few breaks with late goals and the draw but did show resilience.
Scotland had a sorry record:
equal lowest points
worst goal difference
most goals/game conceded
fewest shots on target
fewest shots in total.
The only way to describe that record in a 24 team tournament is feeble.
Yes Clarke has taken us to 2 out of last 3 tournaments but bar games against England and Switzerland we have performed absolutely abysmally when we got there. In addition I believe we were tactically out thought by Germany and Hungary. The Hungary game was one we need to win to qualify yet we appeared devoid of any not only any attacking creativity but worse any attacking intent.
Steve Clarke, who was the right appointment, appears to have succumbed to the common failing of many people who have been in a managerial job for any length of time in that he seems very blinkered in his approach.
Agreed
Wondering if we might like to revisit this one? – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC5Z-IJwwak
Might Scotland have been the only team to beat Spain in EUROS 2024?
Why don’t the SFA sack Steve Clarke and appoint Gareth Southgate as Scotland manager?
If he gets us to 2 successive Euros finals, he’ll get a lot more appreciation from our fans.
(And England can appoint Steve Clarke to improve their chances of beating Spain)
Ha ha!
Like it!
Bread and circuses.
Sadly, it seems that even Bella is no sanctuary from the plague of men talking about balls.
Couldn’t’ve put it better.
My comment after the qualifier was: “I only saw the highlights of the Scotland vs Spain game, but I was deeply concerned about the Sportscene panellists’ approval of the ‘dark arts’ they said Scotland (and Spain) employed.”
Dark arts are part of the origins of football, and is why the association rules were needed in the first place (and refined ever since with ever-more exacting technological support). But I believe the specific poison of ‘game management’ originated in the USA where they hate (really hate) the unpredictability of the game they call soccer (read The Numbers Game for a statistical explanation). ‘Game management’, a vicious, boring and cowardly anti-pattern that violates the social contract between spectators and sport, was gradually imported over here.
https://www.thefa.com/news/2017/jan/16/the-boot-room—managing-the-game-130117
I remember watching live the horror that the top-ranking USA women’s team inflicted upon World Cup spectators by playing the ball en masse into the corner flag zone in the 80th minute of a tournament game they were winning. This isn’t football, it is anti-football. ‘Game managment’ is an anti-pattern (whether designed to kill football or just its unpredictability is uncertain) and must die, to save football as a spectator sport. My view is that if you don’t want to play football, get off the pitch. But of course, the biases of fans, the commercial incentives of clubs, the moral degeneration of commentary, the ‘redemptive arc’ narratives which balance negatives with positives, all conspire in pumping this toxin through the veins of football.
Because the USA is not a world power in men’s game, it isn’t so obvious to see its influence as it is in the women’s game. Claire Emslie, who now plays in the USA, performed an excruciating dive in Scotland colours recently (and was rightly booked). There are many other examples in the England women’s team, of dreadful dark arts that seem to be normalised in the USA. In the recent men’s Euros, Scotland also ramped up their dark arts (to dismal effect), even apparently acknowledged as a deliberate strategy by Steve Clarke.
If you don’t want to play football, get off the pitch. There will others who do, and you’re taking up their place.
I agree with this. I would also lump VAR in with the analysis as it totally misunderstands the difference between the letter of the law and its spirit and encourages gamesmanship. All sports are open to exploitation of their format and football is far from a stranger to that but it is especially depressing when pundits (often ex-footballers) encourage it.
Scotland and England (both being part of the UK) are countries that are not run for the benefit of their own citizens. This shows when we try to compete (in any way) with European countries that are.