Support for Scottish Independence is Generational and Inexorable

There have been polls showing big leads for Yes before, but this one is different. As Adam Ramsay writes in Novara: “A new poll gives Scottish independence a lead of 11%. This isn’t the first time that the ‘Yes’ side has clocked up a double-digit lead. But it is the first time under a Labour government. And that’s significant.”

As Ramsay points out the very idea of a Labour government has long acted as a dam holding back a reservoir of Scottish voters from supporting independence, the prospect of ‘change’ that was held out by this idea was a powerful break on the thousands of Scots who still believed that Labour could create a progressive Britain.

This idea, the idea of Britain as a reformable progressive force has survived as a form of folklore for many, a lore sustained by the Unionist commentariat of a certain vintage who occupy almost all of the key editorial positions across the main newspapers and magazines such as: The Times (Magnus Linklater, Kenny Farquharson, Gillian Bowditch, Alex Massie); the Scotsman (Brian Wilson, Ewan McColm), The Spectator (Stephen Daisley, Iain Macwhirter, Alan Roden), the New Statesman (Chris Deerin), The Sun (Conor Matchett), The Telegraph (Alan Cochrane), Daily Mail (Andrew Neil); the Daily Record (Paul Hutcheon) and many more. Combined, these effectively manage public opinion in Scotland alongside the “revolving door” between politics, the media and lobbying.

But that carefully nurtured folklore, and that belief in Britain has run out of credibility, despite its overwhelming establishment support.

The polling is all the more incredible because it appears despite the fact that there is a distinct absence of leadership or vision or strategy from the SNP, and the alternative pro-independence parties have been riddled with infighting and uninspiring leadership.

Four factors can be seen to be driving this support for independence in the face of an overwhelmingly hostile media. The first is the death of Liberal England – the idea of an English polity which operates within the understood mainstream of British political ideas has gone, as the Brexit fiasco unfolds, and, with it a torrent of far-right politics has consumed English society. The second is the palpable failure of the Labour government to deliver any of the constitutional reforms that were predicted by the opinion formers, columnists and gatekeepers of the Unionist media, over many years. The idea of “reform of the House of Lords” has become a running joke, a sort of meme about the enduring failure of the British state to engage in meaningful reform. The third is the collapse of Britain and British identity as a coherent thing in itself. The very entity that we are supposed to believe in is itself corroding and withering away. As I wrote back in February British identity has effectively collapsed in Scotland (Gen Z and the Death of Britain). A poll by The Times revealed that:

  • Only 41 per cent of young people today were proud to be British and just 15 per cent believed the country was united
  • Almost half (48 per cent) of those aged 18 to 27 thought that Britain was a racist country, far more than the proportion who thought it was not
  • 50 per cent believed that the UK was stuck in the past
  • Only 11 per cent would fight for Britain — and 41 per cent said there were no circumstances at all in which they would take up arms for their country

This idea of Britain as a relic, an heirloom concept is reinforced by the archaic nature of its political structures and the narratives of hyper-nostalgia and Spitfire Nationalism which endure beyond the Brexit era. In fact, what’s telling is that the Brexit vote resolved nothing, UKIP/Reform/Faragism continues to rise and dominate English politics. If there is any Neverendum, it is this.

Further, the 2024 Scottish Census revealed: “The percentage of people who said Scottish was their only national identity increased since the previous census (from 62.4% to 65.5%). The percentage who said they felt Scottish and British decreased (from 18.3% to 8.2%).” This is a generational shift, and it’s not going away anywhere. Britain faces a demographic, generational decline that is now irreversible.

Iron Brew

The fourth driver of change is that the incoming Labour government has failed to live up to any of its, admittedly very low, expectations. The recent scurry to nationalise Scunthorpe steelworks has only highlighted the discrepancy that no such urgency was shown to save the refinery at Grangemouth, or the steelworks at Port Talbot. Scunthorpe is deemed essential to England’s industrial policy (and to Labour’s votes) but Grangemouth is surplus to requirements. Politically, Labour has no investment in saving a key part of Scotland’s industry. Grangemouth is simply expendable, despite embarrassing tv assurances by Anas Sarwar. The Labour government’s economic policies – and Rachel Reeves Spring Statement in particular – were the last straw for party stalwarts such as Neil Findlay and point to the deeper crisis that Scottish Labour find themselves in.

In a scathing letter to Keir Starmer Findlay took no prisoners: “A party that gave assurances to voters that “change” was coming but failed to tell them that the “change” they meant was to impoverish pensioners through cuts to their winter fuel allowance, betray WASPI women by refusing to compensate them for the states’ failure, punish defenceless children by maintaining the horrific two-child cap, abandon the Grangemouth workers and now attack the long term sick and disabled by slashing social security payments (I refuse to call them benefits or welfare). All of this to fund increased spending on the UK war machine – weapons that will be used to kill and injure innocent men women and children in far-off lands”

He added: “At a time when more people are going hungry, fuel bills are soaring and the cost of living is leaving working class families unable to afford the basics, a Labour Government should be going after the billions lost in corporate tax fraud and avoidance, it should be making those companies that pollute our environment pay and it should be introducing a wealth tax on the super rich.

“But instead you choose to punish and stigmatise the weak, poor and the vulnerable.”

The letter concluded: “The reality is that Labour will be lucky to come third at the forthcoming Scottish election, will lose power in Wales for the first time and faces being routed at the next UK election and this will be down to your disastrous tenure as leader.”

These four factors have combined to mean that support for independence is now inexorable. For whole new generations of Scots, the idea of independence is normal. This is enough to overwhelm even the relentless and uniform media hostility, the chumocracy, the tightly controlled lobby class, and incumbent failures.

Aside from all of this, the Unionists have been terrible at defining the Union or articulating any forward-facing outline of what being part of it might mean. Despite the phalanx of scribes and supporters there is no clear message at all, and repeatedly there vision is comically poor, take, for example Labour’s recent graphic of their plans for ‘growth, growth, growth’ below. How do they think this looks if you are in Aberdeen, or Falkirk, or Stornoway?

The Question of Consent

A final factor that provides grist to the indy cause is the tricky question of consent. If this is a voluntary union there needs to be a plausible means by which you can leave.

There is not.

People don’t like being held against their will, and the last two Scottish parliament elections have both given the Scottish government a mandate to hold an independence referendum. This most recent polling suggests a huge pro-independence majority of 29 MSPs after next year’s elections, and the question once again will be asked. This is not a question that has ever been put to a Labour government before. They may well do as the Conservatives have before them, Just Say No. But this is a dangerous game that effectively abandons the pretence that this is a Union of consent.

There are cracks within Scottish Labour about this. Kezia Dugdale and Stephen Noon’s paper Scotland and the Constitution, Agreeing a Way Forward put it:

“…we recognise that the issue of Scotland’s future in or out of the Union was not resolved forever in 2014. If the Union is voluntary, upheld by consent and not just by law, there ought to be a recognised, legal and fair process to test, when appropriate, whether the people who live in Scotland can determine whether they want the country to remain in the Union or to transition to independence.”

“The existing mechanism for triggering a unification referendum in Northern Ireland should be the basis for agreeing a pathway to a future independence referendum in Scotland. This would mean that the key test becomes whether or not it is likely that a majority of people would vote for independence in such a referendum. Meeting this test should place a legal duty on the UK government to agree to a referendum.”

In other words, if Scotland were Northern Ireland, we would today be facing a legal duty to agree a referendum.

There is some absurdity to this position. It basically states that if Scotland was in favour of independence, and highly likely to win a Yes vote, the British state, through the person of the Secretary of State for Scotland, would be legally required to grant one. In other words, it would require him (currently Ian Murray) to commit political suicide.

But this idea also has its merits. It forces those who support the Union to either create a mechanism for withdrawal from it, or admit that it is not a union of consent.

 

 

 

 

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  1. George Archibald says:

    As ever Mike, you have nailed it. I have flagged this one and will be taking it to the ‘dont knows’ that I know. Once we reach 60%+ we will be surely be able to nullify the unionist Main Stream Media?! Mind you newspapers…not many are reading these nowadays? Their influence is diminishing fast I hope.
    It’s coming yet.

    1. John says:

      I may be wrong but I have never seen a poll where Yes polled >50% with Don’t Knows not included in figure?
      It is also noticeable that with SNP on 35% for latest Holyrood poll that the popularity of independence is not now directly linked to popularity of SNP. This must be of real concern to anti independence campaigners and media as they have assumed this.
      Demographics are all pointing to increasing support for independence in younger age groups with highest support for No being in >75 age group.

      1. Andrew says:

        I no longer live in Scotland, but in Australia. My family live in the Scottish Borders. My mum a former Tory voter and my father a Labour party supporter and myself a former Liberal Democrat have all shifted towards supporting independence. My sister has always supported independence. We are a microcosm of Scottish society…My political views have not shifted, I still am a centre of the road voter…but my belief is that as much as I like the UK, I cannot see a benefit to the people of Scotland in remaining in it! It is actually my oil (and I mean the Scottish people’s oil and resources) and if the UK is unwilling to share the proceeds adequately and support Scottish infrastructure and investments then it is reluctantly time to leave. There is no reason for electricity in Scotland to be the highest in the developed world, when we generate so much of it. We lost our biggest export market, the EU, thanks to the short-sightedness (and xenophobia) of the English voter. We should not lose sight of the fact that any retaliation from England will be short-lived…I’m not all that concerned about losing exports to England…I’ve seen the figures, and the vast majority is energy related–England cannot cut these off easily! Now I have no preconceived notion that the first five-ten years won’t be turbulent, but we have the know-how, resources and access to the EU markets (rejoining EFTA in a matter of months), which with proper nurturing (and a preferential tax treatment) could see Scotland back at the frontier of technological advancement and wealth. The turbulence will relate to unravelling contracts with oil, gas, and other energy suppliers.

  2. Hugh McShane says:

    Accurate,succinct statement of where we are. Loved the roll- call of the Reptiles at the start- the roĺl of dishonour makes you realise you can’t have a Scottish media career as a ÿesser,equivocal outliers like McKenna apart.

    1. Alec Lomax says:

      McKenna would have his readers believe that he supports independence.

    2. Charlie Ritchie says:

      You can if you sign up for transphobia duty. Need to keep your sleeves up, mind.

  3. Paul McGhee says:

    Which is why we have lodged with the United Nations our right to be recognised as a colony and that decolonisation is our right and the British state ARE NOT ALLOWED TO INTERFERE OR TRY TO BLOCK this process of decolonisation through the UN

  4. Alex Thomson says:

    Such a positive read which can give us a belief that we are “on the way”
    What is a little disheartening is that SNP top brass continue to ignore the work being done by Scottish Currency Group who hold the key to establishing our own currency after Independence Day.
    This is a serious weakness.
    Can we discuss how ww

  5. duncanio says:

    Hold the happiness people – it’s a single survey!

    And we have been here before on a number of occasions over the last few years.

    There is way too much hyperbole over the results of an individual poll with hubristic comments from the gullible, unthinking, wishful-thinking posters in The National are of the usual “here we go, here we go, here we go!” type.

    But whenever there is negative polling for Independence – such as the two prior polls from YouGov which recorded 46% and 44% for YES in March of this year – then the general response among the uber naive is that these survey firms are biased towards the Union.

    The truth is opinion polls have oscillated since the Independence Referendum but the underlying level of support has remained around 50% since November 2014 i.e. the lasting 5% upward shift in YES levels post-Referendum happened in the immediate weeks after the actual poll tally had YES on 44.7% of votes cast.

    People only really focus on the question when they can see a path to, and timeline for, Independence. Neither of these are in play at the moment.

    You can have as many surveys as you want registering high pro-YES sentiment but:

    Polls – Process = No Point

    1. Its true people celebrate the surveys they like and ignore those that they don’t.
      The point I was making in the article is that the poll coming under a Labour government is significant.

      1. duncanio says:

        Why should the fact that a poll registered under a different variant of parties representing the British state be significant? Labour or Conservative the state remains British.

        It’s a single survey from a single polling firm which has spiked up from its norm of 52%. That does not make it the new normal. Once anger has subsided we’ll see if the postulated increase in YES sentiment is sustained. (The surges in support after the Brexit vote, post-actual Brexit and following the pandemic were maintained).

        What I do note is that projected votes for supposedly pro-Independence parties account for 46% on the Regional ballot which implies that around 10% of Independence supporters are not in favour of SNP/Alba/Green if the 56% pro-YES sentiment in the same poll is accurate.

        What are they going to do? Do they intend to vote for British Unionist parties? Or have they given up and are not intending to vote, so scunnered are they by the various let downs, broken promises and betrayals by those who claim to wish to free us from our oppressors?

        In any event, and to my main point, if there is no process by which any genuine uptick in support for the restoration of Scotland’s full self-government can be harnessed then sample survey results are of no relevance.

    2. John says:

      Duncanio – I think the majority of independence supporters are aware it is just a single poll but consider this from an anti independence standpoint:
      1)The assumption that all we need is Labour back in power and the support for independence would fall has been proven wrong. (Tories have been in power since 2010 until July 2024). Indeed disappointment with a Labour government so obviously focussed on red wall voters in England is possibly making soft Yes/No voters reevaluate.
      2)The assumption that independence support is inextricably linked to SNP popularity has been shown to be false. The sustained attack on SNP by media and opponents of independence may have contributed in part to drop in support for SNP but has not affected support for independence. This must be really disappointing for opponents of independence.
      3)The article points out how support for union & opposition to independence is highest and firmest in the oldest generation. This must be extremely worrying to supporters of Union for longer term.
      In short the indicators from successive polls have shown that the opponents of independent who have planned, hoped and shouted about how the independence issue is dead are wrong and I suspect in their hearts they know it.
      While there appears no direct route to independence at present initiatives as the one with UN outlined above show that moves are being made.
      The opponents of independence will continue to try and spread despair and negativity amongst the electorate of Scotland because that is the only tactic they have left. While I agree supporters of independence have to be realistic descending into negativity and division only serves the case of opponents of independence.

      1. duncanio says:

        John,

        If “the majority of independence supporters are aware it is just a single poll” then perhaps it might be a good idea for some of the more excitable ones to cut down on the hubris.

        On point 1:

        If that was the great Unionist plan i.e. that Labour would be seen as a bull work against the harshest aspects of Westminster rule then that has indeed been a gigantic failure.

        I am not sure that I believe in the concept of ‘soft Nos’. We don’t know what the strength of feeling is among those against nation-state status for Scotland. They may well simply vary from being firmly in favour of the constitutional status quo or aggressively pro-Union. Perhaps you could point me to some reference that defines this segment of the population and describes the intensity of feeling on the constitutional question.

        On point 2:

        I do agree that pro-YES sentiment has been unaffected by the travails of the various nominally pro-Independence parties. The question is: why is that? It may simply be because respondents to the question in a sample survey don’t really think about that much since they know that the possibility of exercising that inalienable right of self-determination is not in play at the moment due to the timidity of our leaders who mostly boast before they cower. So perhaps people for the most part offer up their default answer when being surveyed … which was the one they gave last time or the way they voted in 2014.

        On point 3:

        “While there appears no direct route to independence at present initiatives as the one with UN outlined above show that moves are being made.”

        Even those that head up Salvo and Liberation Scotland recognise that a political process in the domestic sphere will be required even if they are successful at the United Nations. A plan that will lead to liberation from our oppressors.

        There is only one plan that has been published – it’s called the #ManifestoForIndependence, the supporters of want the politicians to commit to supporting this simple 6 step process in advance of next year’s election. This circumvents the Westminster ‘veto’, is supremely democratic, obtains the explicit endorsement of the people for freedom and, most importantly, acts on that mandate so obtained.

        The “negativity and division” that you refer to results from inaction and betrayal of promises. I have lost count of the number of front pages in The National over the last 10 years that have said variously “It’s on!”, “Game On!” “Save the Date!” etcetera. Those who purport to be fighting for our freedom need to be bold and, at the very least, have a credible plan that will lead us out of this Union.

        1. John says:

          Duncanio- thank you for your reply.
          1)I know of no polling on strength of affinity to Yes or No votes but I would add as evidence:
          a)Identify – I would suggest that people that identify as Scottish only (see above 65.5%) are more likely to be open to the idea of independence. Those that identify as British or Scottish & British are most likely to be opposed to independence. (those that don’t identify as either Scottish or British may not be completely opposed to independence).
          b)Human nature is such that in a two choice referendum once someone has made a decision they are unlikely to change their mind as they would have to admit they made a mistake. Those that didn’t vote in 2014 (an increasing proportion of electorate) may have no fixed position on the question as it has not been put to them yet. Evidence- look at how support for independence rose from 33% to 45% in run up to independence referendum when people had to look at issue at make a decision.
          c)polling has shown that at present independence is not an important priority for a significant section of electorate. This is partly due to current economic difficulties which makes people focus on short term and also due to people not seeing a viable route to independence while Westminster opposes a second referendum. Polling also shows that most people in Scotland see a referendum as best and most legitimate way of deciding the issue.
          From the above I think it is quite reasonable to say that there are a significant section of electorate in Scotland who are neither firmly in favour or firmly opposed to independence ie by definition Soft Yes & No voters.
          2)See point b above.
          3)see point c above – the 2014 referendum was described by outside observers as the gold standard on independence referendum. It is also now the accepted method of assessing public opinion by majority of electorate in Scotland and by potential allies and friends of an independent Scotland. The reality is that if you are going to go down the route of gaining independence without a referendum you are going to have to demonstrate overwhelming support for independence to gain acceptance internationally but even more importantly from within Scotland. I am sorry to sound negative now but I don’t think the support is there for any alternative route to independence at present.
          Remember it took 18 years from the first devolution referendum to second devolution referendum. There was a lot of background work by many groups that went from raising Yes vote from 37% of electorate (sound familiar) in 1979 to significant majority in 1997. I remember being quite depressed thinking devolution would never come post 1992 GE but events moved pretty swiftly after this and the devolution movement was in a position to take advantage when events became favourable.

          1. duncanio says:

            John,

            I too will take you points one by one.

            1a)
            Fair point. I will investigate.

            1 b)
            I do agree that support for Independence increased significantly during the 2012-2014 period as you say, accelerating right up until about a week before actual polling day.

            This was because there was a process that was time-bound. People were forced to focus on the question as they had a decision to make. Hence, my emphasis on there being a credible process. Currently that is not the case and none of the nominally pro-Independence parties currently have one that will restore independent statehood.

            1c)
            People do not see a viable route because none of the supposedly pro-Independence parties are proposing one. Hence, my point on process and why I advocate the #ManifestoForIndependence (https://newscotlandparty.scot/manifesto-for-independence/). The latter, if you have read it, includes a national plebiscite, made in Scotland under the auspices of Scottish institutions, where the electorate have the option of endorsing Independence.

            2) Covered under 1b), above

            3)
            We do need a referendum but not the 2014 variety. That is not the ‘Gold Standard’:
            That is what the British wish to believe, so that they can have a veto. It is what the Scottish Government want you to believe, so that they sit on their backsides and do nothing.

            It is in fact the ‘British Standard’ as they get to set the rules and get to interpret the meaning of the result i.e. if NO wins then it will be binding, final, end of. If YES wins then the referendum will be treated as consultative and non-self-executing i.e. it will, in effect, have been a glorified opinion poll and the outcome will be ignored. Remember that the Westminster ‘system’ is based on the doctrine of parliamentary sovereignty i.e. the politicians are in charge. They won’t allow that authority to be overridden if we accept that they have that power in the first instance.

            On the other hand if we truly believe the Scottish people as sovereign (as per the Claim of Right) then Westminster cannot decide a) whether we have a referendum, b) what kind of referendum it is and c) how the result of that referendum is interpreted. To involve a foreign government and parliament in that process fatally undermines and compromises our Sovereignty.

            (Note: It is a contradiction in terms to say that the Scottish people are sovereign whilst granting Westminster a veto).

            We, with the backing of the Scottish people, will have to assert our right of self-determination, hold our own referendum and deliver on the outcome so mandated.

            This is all covered in the #ManifestoForIndependence. This circumvents the Westminster ‘veto’, is supremely democratic, obtains the explicit endorsement of the people for freedom and, most importantly, acts on that mandate so obtained.

            Which is why I commend it to you. (Note: it is a 6 step process so easy to digest).

          2. John says:

            Duncanio – thanks for the manifesto which I have read.
            The 2014 referendum was recognised as a gold standard by the independent verifiers who came from outwith Uk – please correct me if I am wrong. You cannot ignore the fact that 2014 referendum had 85% participation – whichever route you go down you do want mass participation in process both to validate result and for a successful and cohesive country post independence. There is every chance the anti independence parties will not play ball, boycott referendum and cast doubt on the whole process in which case you will require a high Yes vote – reference what happened in Caledonia.
            International recognition is important especially in the transition period and first few years which could be difficult economically. I want independence primarily because I think it will benefit the vast majority of people of Scotland and therefore want the process to be as smooth as possible.
            I don’t think the strategy you have shown (thanks) is a non starter but it will require mass support from public to be feasible.
            What is imperative IMO at present is a strategy to build up mass support and enthusiasm and if I may make a suggestion I think issues such as energy, Grangemouth etc demonstrate to electorate clearly how Westminster is letting us down and we also need more focus on how independence would benefit us.
            Build up mass support and a whole range of options become possible to move the process forward.
            The SNP has had a massive loss in confidence from a series of setbacks (some self inflicted) and is purely focussed on damage limitation and retaining as many seats as possible in next years Holyrood election. Unfortunately all strategies require a mandate from Holyrood for independence and for upcoming election SNP are still main show in town for gaining that mandate. Hopefully they will understand the decoupling of independence support from SNP support will need them to take a broader view on independence movement and their role in it.

          3. Andrew says:

            I’ve read both views from John and Duncario. I’m not entirely convinced that a referendum is the only approach. And why realistically do we have to seek approval from WM to hold one. If a referendum is the gold standard then it should not matter If run by WM or the Scottish government! I was wanting to retain control of Scotland and her assets I’d never grant it. Similarly why grant a divorce in a marriage that would greatly disadvantage me!
            What is deeply concerning, however, is the fact that the union has now so little support even with a Labour Party in power as correctly identified by Mike Small in his article.

          4. duncani says:

            John,

            1) British Standard Constitutional Referendums

            I have already laid out the reasons in some detail why the 2014 Independence Referendum is most definitely not the ‘Gold Standard’ and why both the Westminster parties and the nominally pro-Independence parties in Scotland would like you to believe that. I can only refer you back to that. As for the term itself I have no idea who coined it but it is meaningless in respect of one where Westminster has the final say on how to interpret the result and whether or not to act on it.

            A referendum will be required and, as someone who has read the #ManifestoForIndependence you will see that this is allowed for. Only it is the Scottish Parliament that instigates it, after first being mandated by the people to have these powers by the Scottish people (who are sovereign in this land).

            Of course ‘mass participation’ is preferable but who defines what would be the threshold? Not Westminster, that’s for sure as, rather obviously, no hurdle can be set high enough or obstacle made large enough to block our human right of self-determination as far as they are concerned. There wasn’t one set in 2014 so why introduce one? Why should it be different at any time in the future?

            2) International Dimension

            Regarding the Catalonian reference the situation is not similar to Scotland. The former has never been a nation whilst Scotland undeniably is. The Edinburgh Agreement in 2012 alone confirmed that even the British accept that as a nation Scotland has a right of self-determination
            .
            Are you implying that, in the event of a vote to end the Union where the British parties ordered their supporters to abstain en masse in a democratic event as laid out in the #ManifestoForIndependence, that the Westminster and Westminster-controlled authorities would order to police to truncheon us into submission? How would that sit with the ‘international community’ to which you refer?

            The ‘international community’ won’t fight our battles for us, we will have to do that ourselves. Democratically. And as you will have seen from the #ManifestoForIndependence the process is doubly so with the people involved in the ‘legislative competence’ election and the subsequent specific referendum on ending the Union.

            And, in any event, a faint heart never won a fair maiden.

            3) Campaigning to End the Union

            As for “build up mass support and enthusiasm” and “demonstrate to electorate clearly how Westminster is letting us down” and “focus on how independence would benefit us” that is really just reflects the position of the current SNP/Scottish Government and other nominally pro-Independence parties. The one they use to do nothing. In any case these issues you mention can be covered in a nuanced ‘live’ referendum campaign.

            Who decides when support is that the right level to go to the people? Surely you wouldn’t suggest Westminster as that would undermine Scottish sovereignty? Opinion polls? If so, which one or ones? An average? Over what period of time? In any case all the things you mention can be covered in a referendum campaign to end the Union.

            There is no doubt that the SNP/Scottish Government over the last 10 years have neglected the constitutional issue. Some might say they have betrayed it, given all the broken promises and missed opportunities following their use of ‘Independence’ as an electioneering tool.

            However, the SNP are important simply on the basis of the amount of votes that they garner.

            That is why, as you must have noted, that the #ManifestoForIndependence states that ALL supposedly pro-Independence parties must adopt it in their various election prospectuses.

  6. Martin says:

    Math fhèin!

  7. m says:

    Nah, despite this strategically timed piece of predictable propaganda in the run up to the 2026 Scottish election, Holyrood shall continue to function as the wee wheel of the Great British state whilst debating issues of as little relevance as possible to the average punter on the street. The main function of Holyrood is to provide a smokescreen for Scotland’s facilitation of & complicity in the continued slaughter of innocent civilians overseas whilst their pals in the media attempt further distraction with pie in the sky notions of Scottish independence which remains about as likely as the second coming of Christ. Nobody with more than 2 braincells to rub thegither has the slightest faith in German Boab (GB), Swinney the Swick, the Scottish Nato Party or any of those compulsive liars in the media busy feathering their own nests off the backs of folk’s disillusion, desperation & despair. If any of these people had any conscience at all they would be fkn ashamed of themselves & be particularly ashamed of those ridiculous recent pay rises for local & national government whilst people who actually work for a living are being financially fleeced as a direct result of the professional & political class in these islands being the same shower of self-serving, double crossing 2 faced c*nts they always have been.

    1. Hi Mark – you are really welcome to come on here and disagree with everyone and everything and express yourself but if it just descends into abuse your comments will be removed. Thanks.

      1. m says:

        Did not think I was stating anything that wasn’t patently obvious to anyone who has been following Scottish politics over the past couple of decades. Nor did I think I was being abusive at all. But please feel free to delete anything you find objectionable, after all isn’t that precisely how ‘democracy’ in Scotland is supposed to not work.

        1. Asking you not to call people Cunts isn’t unreasonable.

          1. m says:

            lol, yes, that is a fair point, but I was on a sort of verbal roll, my apologies but I could not think of another word that quite had the same ring to it, if I had used the word ‘sods’ for example it simply would have sounded as though I had wanted to say ‘c*nts’ but was afraid of being censored, perhaps you might prefer the article I am working on now about the origin & history of the Findhorn Foundation started by an ex Royal Air Force man who in earlier days was reportedly in communication with UFOs & various supernatural spirits. I hope this article when finished will at least partially explain my scepticism regarding the Scottish government since their quango i.e., Creative Scotland has consistently insisted that this very same Findhorn Foundation (chock full of incomers from wealthy backgrounds) regularly receives almost all the cultural funding allocated in the Moray area, we are talking some millions of pounds over the years which has in my humble opinion been wasted by this Foundation in putting on cultural events such as processions thru various towns & villages following a 10 meter tall wicker chick in 2020-2021 which was nothing but a patronising insult to descendants of fishing communities such as myself, many thanks, Mark

    2. Frank Mahann says:

      I doubt whither the average punter in the street could make heid nor tail o’ yer ramble.

      1. m says:

        many thanks for the detailed & incisive criticism

  8. Hugh McShane says:

    Anyone else find it deplorable that when indigenous journos like Connor Gillies&Kathryn Sampson get their breaks into the ‘big time’- they appear to be paid by their output of Scotgov/SNP/or just Scotland-bad stories? Gillies was on about Glasgow+ gang warfare today!

    1. Alex Thomson says:

      I’m with you Hugh, these journos et all are told what content to write, so there is no broad or even opinions being expressed.
      Stopped watching BBC Scotland News a long time ago – keeps my blood pressure in place

  9. Paddy Farrington says:

    Certainly, a poll like this helps to sustain those of us at the grassroots that are still involved in public campaigning for independence. While I very much agree with the thrust of the article, it does point to a disconnect between, on the one hand, support for independence – which is steady and perhaps growing – and the lack of an effective, broad-based, non-party and cross-party independence movement. I don’t pretend to know how we get that – but I very much doubt that adding yet more micro-parties to the mix, or appealing to the UN, will help.

    In the very different context of the USA, Robert Reich has suggested a succession of general strikes to halt Trump’s attack on democracy. That’s the kind of level of mobilisation we might need here in Scotland, if the UK government persists in blocking Scotland’s right to self determination after a pro-independence majority has been won again at Holyrood. At present, even with 56% support in the polls, it feels like we have a fair way to go.

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