The King in the North and tracking Holyrood and Senedd Polls
“If you consider yourself a unionist, you should be very concerned that we are getting to a point where 3 out of the 4 of the countries within it have large numbers of voters that don’t want the UK to exist.”
Will Hayward
As the Andy Burnham debacle unfolds this weekend (Burnham was blocked from standing in the Gorton and Denton byelection, the NEC group voting 8-1 against him) we kick off our coverage of the Holyrood elections.
The internal feuding within Labour provides a turbulent backdrop to the elections. As Brian Leishman, MP for Alloa & Grangemouth has put it:
“The party have decided that they are willing to lose the Gorton and Denton by-election because of their own weakness and insecurity. To block Andy Burnham is a disgraceful decision that is as undemocratic as it is cowardly.”
The sad tale reveals a lot about Labour’s problems, north and south of the border. The Burnham leadership feud shows the extent of democracy within a broken Labour party, but it also shows two other things. First, it reveals the shallowness of Labour’s political thinking, which assumes that their problems are essentially about individuals and personalities, rather than politics. But second, it shows complete disregard for their Scottish colleagues who are now in the middle of an election. This disregard is odd because a terrible defeat for Labour at Holyrood (and at the Welsh Senedd) will be a major blow for Starmer’s beleaguered government.
This is the first Scotland poll tracker of the year. The SNP are just one short of a majority. As Mark McGeoghegan states, this gives a “Pro-independence majority of 21. Worst ever Labour & Con results. Best ever Green result.” The projected seats (compared to 2021) are as follows:
Seats (+/- 2021): SNP: 64 (-) Ref: 16 (+16) Lab: 18 (-4) Grn: 11 (+3) Con: 10 (-21) LD: 10 (+6) Alba: 0 (-)

The polling is consistent with recent trends.
A result like this would mean an extinction event for the Scottish Tories, and a huge boost for the Scottish Greens, possibly benefiting from the high-profile insurgency of the party in England and Wales under Zack Polanski. Whether that is deserved or not is a different matter, but it’s likely nevertheless. This pattern of UK politics influencing Scottish politics is seen across the parties, with the rise of Reform UK being the most obvious, despite Scotland having fundamentally different ‘needs’ on immigration, and despite the party having no Scottish policies whatsoever. But if Reform have emerged on the back of Farage’s wrap-around UK media coverage, Scottish Labour have the negative effect of this phenomenon. Anas Sarwar can’t and won’t distance himself from his London leader, and while Starmer is dragging Sarwar down with him, a big defeat in May will also be disastrous for Starmer.
Defeat in May will be a bitter blow for Scottish Labour, particularly after the party having spent a huge warchest on the campaign, flooding social media and You Tube with party broadcasts.

Some have noticed how desperate the Scottish Labour campaign has become with Sarwar attempting to mimic the success of Zohran Mamdani in New York. This, as Coll McCail has pointed out (Scottish Labour is a party stuck in long-term decline ), has only gone to show the paucity of the SLAB offering. With neither the charisma, policies or groundforce of supporters, Sarwar’s attempt to copy Mamdani has just made him look ridiculous and desperate.

What about Wales?
The pattern of Labour crisis and resurgent nationalist parties and Greens, is mirrored in Wales. Recent polling puts Plaid well ahead of Reform and, if correct, would allow Plaid Cymru to form a majority coalition without Labour.

As Will Hayward has written (Wake up, Westminster: after May, the Scottish and Welsh parliaments will likely be for independence):
“If you were the leader of a democracy, you would hope that the people you govern would, at the very least, want the state itself to exist. It shouldn’t be too much to ask. And yet, if the polls are to be believed, the United Kingdom is in a very interesting position. By the end of May, it is likely that the largest party in three of the four constituent countries of the UK will want the larger polity in which they operate to break apart.”
“The SNP is currently the overwhelming favourite to have the most seats in the Scottish parliament in the upcoming elections. In Wales, there was polling last week suggesting that the Welsh nationalist party Plaid Cymru was on course to be the largest party inside the Welsh Senedd, just four seats short of a majority. Even more astonishing is that the Welsh Green party was also predicted to get 11 of the 96 seats. This would mean that there would be a majority of parties inside the Welsh parliament whose official policy was for Welsh independence. In Northern Ireland, the party with the most seats at present is Sinn Féin.”

That much of this is going on below radar from the UK Labour party which is more obsessed with internal feuding than supporting their faltering colleagues in Scotland and Wales, tells you all you need to know about the blinkered political culture of Unionist parties.
If Plaid and the SNP are seen to be a bulwark against the rise of Reform they will continue to attract support from voters desperate to stop Farage’s party getting a foothold in either parliament. The rise and rise of the Green Party under Polanski offers an obvious option for left-voters turned off the failed Starmer project. None of this detracts from the fact that the SNP and Scottish Green Party, and Plaid and the Greens have huge questions to answer and difficulties to navigate in the coming months.

Imagine what the position would be now had the SNP been remotely competent and used the time since the referendum to actually prepare and campaign for independence.
Indeed.
Quite right GilleRuadh!
The big unanswered questions of 2014 remain unanswered 12 years later. Why? They’re not any kind of mystery. They were sensible for the doubtful to ask back then, and they are sensible to ask again now.
Independence is simultaneously ahead in the polls *and* low down in people’s stated priorities. Why? Shouldn’t it be the beating heart of the SNP’s agenda and vision for Scotland?
We are in a place right now that was unimaginable to the point of ludicrous in 2014. A decade of unbroken Nationalist rule and we aren’t even seriously talking about independence? What is wrong!? What’s going on?
Ceart gu leoir!
John
How high was independence in voter’s priorities at 2011 Holyrood election?
One reason that independence is lower in the electorates priorities is that with Westminster vetoing any request by Holyrood for a referendum the electorate don’t see how it can be achieved.
The other reason is that those campaigning for independence (mainly SNP) have failed to demonstrate the importance of independence to improving the daily life of people in Scotland.
‘Blue’ Labour, the socially conservative ideological group is dominant within Labour’s NEC and may of its MPs are supporters or lean towards it. The intellectual driver behind this group is Maurice Glasman, who is close to President Trump associate, Steve Bannon, and was invited to Trump’s inauguration.
He has been predicting the demise of the Conservative Party, partly due to the rise of Reform and the right wing drift in its policies and the defection of MPs, MSPs, Councillors to Reform. The drift to the right, which began before Reform, has seen an abandonment of ‘One Nation’ conservatism, which contributed to a great degree to the Tories’ electoral success over many decades. He has said that the traditional space on the political spectrum which the Tories occupied is the one that Starmer’s Labour Party should be aiming to fill. So, it is Blue Labour aka Red Tories.
However, historically, the One Nation Tories had a narrative which they and the media set out and it resonated with a significant but varying proportion of the electorate, probably never a majority, but enough to win power under the first past the post electoral system. But, Labour does not have a narrative nor is Starmer capable of delivering one other than standing in front of two union flags and repeating ‘Britain, patriotism’ ad nauseam.
He is, probably, an English nationalist, but, like many of his compatriots, does not know what ‘England’ connotes and thus waffles vacuous slogans. Like many Labourites and unionists he does not realise that England is the only part of the UK that does not have a government. Yes, Westminster is the Parliament of England, pre 1707 continuing, with some amendments, but it still governs for the ruling landed, business and financial class, not Chesterton’s ‘plain people of England’. Starmer’s Labour Party MPs, many of them have their noses in that trough.
My new Year began with postal receipt of a grubby flyer from Reform . It quite blatantly outlined its Trumpian credentials and direction . I just don’t get the feeling that the politicos here get it that we are in serious danger of allowing Reform to infiltrate Holyrood. It is not a political party. it is a racist misogynist outfit and just like maga filled with hate. Get real and face the threat big time.
The SNP were more radical, with policies galore, in the early ‘70s than they are now. In spite of rank bad leadership then, they exuded confidence and a justified sense of purpose; both of which are now lacking.
I think this is down to security services infiltration, and a media in Scotland which is largely controlled by British nationalist propagandists.
They have failed to confront either, the State actors in both should be exposed and faced down.
Were the SNP really more radical in the 1970s? Really? I think they were socially and economically conservative.
…. when reading that :- “we are getting to a point where 3 out of the 4 of the countries within it have large numbers of voters that don’t want the UK to exist.” …. it occurred to me that in the 4th Country (England) there is also a Nationalist Political Party, Mebyon Kernow (“Sons of Cornwall” in Cornish) and they are agitating for, at least, Devolution and possibly autonomy from England (aka. Greenland).
With Scotland, Wales & the North of Ireland potentially all returning Nationalist Majorities in the next G.E., this could be the boost that Mebyon Kernow need to advance their political ambitions as the Scottish, Welsh, Breton’s (in France) & Northern Irish are doing.
Politically the sands are shifting and a new order and realignment could be forming (the Celtic Alliance ?) … interesting times !!
One of the reasons Labour is unpopular is because it was never popular in the first place, with 2/3 of voters putting their cross elsewhere in 2024. The landslide majority is an electoral travesty.
Instead of grasping the nettle of electoral reform, even for English local government, Labour insiders prefer to gamble on winning again in 2029 with even fewer votes, and keeping their remaining safe seats.
They are probably right that a fair voting system would leave Labour struggling ever again to win more than a fifth of voters in the U.K.- but it would at least allow MPs to block a majority Reform government from ever coming to power.
It’s worth noting that the current projection for SNP MSPs only comes as a result of the constituency part of our voting system, with the SNP likely to take far more than its proportionate share of seats. Having another pro independence majority at Holyrood will be nice but is merely a quirk of the system.
Steve. – a pretty accurate assessment of the vagaries of electoral systems in UK. FPTP is completely unsuitable for the multiparty system that has been in the UK for last 30 years. We now have situation where the next Westminster election is basically a lottery with any party being able to win a majority with only 30% of votes. This is especially worrying wrt Reform where 70% of electorate are firmly opposed to Reform’s racist basis.
In 2011 Holyrood election SNP won 45% of constituency vote as opposed to 47% in 2021 and 43% list vs 40% list yet they got a majority in 2011 and fell just short in 2021. SNP could feasibly get a majority in 2026 with considerably less support due to fractured anti SNP support. The pro independence majority was also greater in 2021 than 2011 and may be even larger in 2026 due to rise of Green Party.
In 2011 support for independence was polling at 33% now it is polling at 50+% support which is why Westminster agreed to a referendum in 2012 and has refused since 2021.
The main thing is not to fret over any perceived unfairness of system but to use it to the benefit of independence campaign. God knows the opponents of independence use the system to their advantage at every opportunity.
Labour Party sounds like the outworking of the Iron Law of Institutions:
‘The Iron Law of Institutions is: the people who control institutions care first and foremost about their power within the institution rather than the power of the institution itself. Thus, they would rather the institution “fail” while they remain in power within the institution than for the institution to “succeed” if that requires them to lose power within the institution.’
— Jon Schwarz. “Democrats and the Iron Law of Institutions”. Tiny Revolution, 5 Sep 2007.
Thanks, I’d heard of that but not for a while. Really makes sense here.
An extinction event for Alba as well, though in truth they had never shown much sign of life in the first place.
Yes indeed Paddy.
I have the feeling that the SNP have hit the bottom of their bucket for the time-being and their main problem will be people who can’t be bothered leaving the house in order to vote for yet more of exactly the same. I agree that their main policy will be trying to make people really scared of Reform (as scared as the SNP are of reform of anything). The problem with that is it would be headed by John Swinney. I find peeling tatties more interesting and engaging, but at least he isn’t Ross Greer, who presumably won’t ever be going to Methil. Reform voters will be more motivated to vote.
Reform are an English nationalist party led by a racist which is filled with failed Tories. Reform are therefore not surprisingly gaining most support from Tory voters and anti independence Labour supporters. Farage perpetrated Brexit and wildly cheered Liz Truss’s budget. He would like to see Scotland as part of a UK even more subservient to USA. He is nothing short of a traitor to the UK.
If the good people of Methil or anywhere else would like to see what a Reform government would be like they should look at what’s happening in USA in 2026.
While this article highlights the number of seats parties are projected to win, it makes no mention of percentages of votes being cast.
Ten days ago, John Curtice, writing for The Times, pointed to a poll carried out by Norstat. It suggested that the SNP would win 35% of constituency votes (48% IN 2021) and 29% of list votes (40% in 2021.)
These figures – if translated into real votes in May – would seriously undermine any claim to actively pursue independence.
SLAB’s problems are well known but I suspect that it will do better than pundits are predicting, as happened at the Hamilton, Larkhall and Stone- house by election last year.
Latest polling shows support for independence on 50+% support- in 2012 support for independence was polling at ~35% – anyone can play with polling!
The only democratic way to assess whether there should be another independence referendum is a Holyrood election (100% electorate within Scotland ). If Holyrood returns a majority who support an independence referendum one should be held in lifetime of that parliament. This should not be vetoed by Westminster (>90% electorate outwith Scotland).
I would even say that a referendum should only be held every second Holyrood parliament (ie every 10 years) to bring this into line with the every 7 years frequency in GFA for referendum on Irish reunification.
Labour has been in power Wales for almost a century. It has treated the country with disdain, almost an afterthought.
All that is changing. Reform attracts the votes of “White flight” elderly from England that can barely pronounce “ Plaid Cymru” let alone vote for it.
It also attracts the urban poor in the Valleys resentful of what they see as a Welsh speaking elite in Cardiff.
That said expect to see the majority of Welsh quite naturally reject Reform for the English Nationalist party it is, with zero policies for Cymru.
SNP DEVO MAX PARTY – Salmon + has fellow Misleaders policy for Scotland was DEVO MAX – SNP policy since very first sitting of Scottish Parliament where ANDREW WILSON MSP (Salmons right hand man) devised SNP DEVO MAX POLICY and lobbied Tory, labour and Lib Dem MSPs (since Blair’s Trojan horse was set up) TO BACK SNP DEVO MAX FOR SALMOND – originally Salmond and Wilson called this PURELY SNP POLICY “fiscal autonomy” but rebranded it DEVO MAX around 2012 when Salmonfld went to USA and told bunch of gathered elite rich Americans SCOTLAND BEEDS DEVO MAX why Salmong got SNPs NR DEVO MAX (Andrew Wilson to set up a Propaganda company IN 2013 with SENIOR NR LABOUR FIGURES in Edinburgh IN 2013 WITH TORY MINISTER (AMBER RUDD) brother New labours Roland Rudd (mandelson godfather to his child) along with New Labours Malcolm Robertson (George Robertson’s son) who was working for David Cameron at that time (since then senior Tory and Lib Dem figures one a member of the UK LORDS invited to join THEIR ALL IN TOGETHER misleading all the people – yes and no voters PR COMPANY proving TOGETHER SNP-BETTER TOGETHER were just leading everyone a merry fake indy SNP DEVO MAX merry dance together as STURGEON PERSONALLY -behind our back in MARCH 2014 SUGNED SEWELL MOTION to give UK parliament to INCLUDE SCOTLAND AND OUR WATER IN A NEW UK PRIVATE WATER MARKET while lik Kaavthe snake she misled Scotland’s children saying trust in me to split from UK WHILE AT SAME TIME TELKING UK GOVERNMENT it was ‘jountvobjective’ of SNP Government to sell out Scotland’s water independence from Westminster to UK COALITION GOVERNMENT – personally (she fled from an INDY MEETING when challenged about this week’s before there SNP DEVO MAX FAKE INDY REF – she refused to answer questions on it despite asking questioner to wait behind for answers – and instead of answering refused to look questioner (waiting as asked) in the eye and fled the hall -no iron lady – caught with her UK PRIVATE WATER MARKET PANTS round her ankles (figuratively speaking) and no way to cover her unionist misleading back side