Common Ground
There’s an ongoing debate about which piece of dystopian sci-fi you are living in. The traditional favourites are Margaret Atwood’s The Handmaid’s Tale, Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World or George Orwell’s 1984. Others suggest that the blurring of lines between reality and digital spaces reflects Neal Stephenson’s Snow Crash or the climate dystopia of Kim Stanley Robinson’s The Ministry for the Future. I think we’re closer to Alan Moore’s V for Vendetta.

On Saturday, the BBC told us that “John Swinney told a news conference in Edinburgh that the SNP was by a “country mile” the leading party and would form the next government. He said the leaders of all other Holyrood parties would be invited individually to talks from next week to seek common ground – except for Reform.”
Swinney pointed to successful budget negotiations with the Greens and Lib Dems earlier this year, and said the party had worked constructively with other parties on specific issues. However, the SNP leader said Reform’s leader in Scotland, Malcolm Offord, would not be invited for talks.
Cue a barrage of outrage and condemnation about how the First Minister could possibly do this and how terrible it was to exclude Mr Offord and his MSPs.
I think he’s 100% right to do this.
The campaign was characterised by the media treating Reform UK as just another political party, fawning over Malcolm Offord’s ostentatious display of wealth, his car, his hair, even. Offord was soft-balled questions and asked to go and play golf with The Scotsman. The party’s far-right polices were ignored, or sane-washed.
Setting aside the dark-money flooding into Reform, and the personal grift and corruption [Reform deputy fails to guarantee Farage did not use any of undeclared £5m gift on campaigning | The Independent] for a moment, let’s look at why Reform needs a cordon sanitaire around them.
Only yesterday Richard Tice refused to condemn the comments from a councillor in Sunderland who said that Nigerians should be used to “fill in the pot holes”.
Glenn Gibbins, who was elected as a Reform councillor in Sunderland in this week’s local elections, in 2024 complained on social media about the “amount of Nigerians in town”.
“We should melt them all down and fill in the pot holes!!” he wrote in a later-deleted post, according to campaign group Hope Not Hate.
Tice, the deputy leader of Reform, refused to directly criticise Mr Gibbins and instead accused the media of “smearing” Nigel Farage’s party.
In a statement to the media, director of campaigns for Hope Not Hate, Georgie Laming, said: “Glenn Gibbins’s comments were so racist and misogynistic that suspending him was the only credible response.
“But he is just the latest in a long line of Reform candidates we have exposed for extreme views. Reform boasts about having the best vetting in Britain. Farage now needs to explain how it keeps letting people like this through.”

While the arrival at Holyrood of two trans MSPs has caused an outpouring of hysteria and bigotry, it’s telling that less attention has been given to the arrival of Senga Beresford on the South of Scotland regional list for Reform.
The Herald tells us: “A businesswoman and mother of four from Dumfries and Galloway, Beresford became a central figure during the Holyrood campaign after scrutiny of social media posts in which she appeared to support the deportation of Muslims and endorse far-right activist Tommy Robinson. “In August 2024, she replied: ‘Me,’ to a post on the social media site X from Ashlea Simon, the deputy leader of the far-right party Britain First, which said: ‘In the UK Muslims are demanding that sharia law is implemented. I demand that we deport the lot of them. Who’s with me?’ During this year’s Holyrood campaign, she told ITV Border people should be ‘grateful’ to Robinson for highlighting grooming gangs. Facing criticism, Beresford insisted she had ‘nothing against Muslims’ and apologised ‘if people have misunderstood’.”
In England, a candidate in West Sussex called for “every Muslim” to be deported from Britain because the public cannot tell them apart from terrorists… [Reform candidate calls for mass deportation of Muslims]

Zia Yusuf, Reform UK’s ‘home affairs spokesperson’ has announced that the party, when in power, who have an upfront spending of £10bn on a network of new ‘detention centres’ in order to deport 2 million people. They have acknowledged that the already-stretched police could not execute such a task and therefore a special force would have to be created. Sound familiar?
There can be no ‘common ground’ with such people and such policies. You don’t sit down and have a conversation with people who are advocating rounding up your friends and ordinary members of the community. It’s called having a threshold. The relationship with Reform UK has been characterised as endless compromise, endless normalisation. This would be a good time to stop that, and John Swinney has made the right call.
The Liberal response to the arrival of fascists [The F Bomb] – particularly the liberal media, has just been endless appeasement. Our inability to recognise what’s going on, to recognise real change and to respond to it, our endless capacity for complacency is utterly disastrous.
“Beyond the pale” describes behavior or actions that are utterly unacceptable, unreasonable, or outside the boundaries of polite society and civilized conduct. The idiom originates from the concept of a “pale” (a fence or boundary, from Latin pālus), representing areas under specific authority, where anything outside was considered lawless.

Sane-washed is a timely phrase, possibly even overdue.
Indeed.
Well said. We need continuous exposure of the abhorrent Reform aims and opinions.
This is an excellent start. Keep it up! Please!
I hope that this time round the SNP gets back to building consensus before proposing Bills, and that the other progressive parties put achieving concrete improvements before petty party advantage, the way we were told the. Scottish Parliament would work.
Concentration on the fundamentals of poverty and employment rather than marginal issues might help. A wealthy society tends to be more tolerant too. So many of our issues come down to ingrained unemployment and the consequent poverty and demoralisation. None of Scotland’s main parties have made much of a dent in this and to see Independence as the solution looks like wishful thinking. In the short-term at least it could make things worse.
And yet despite the overt racism, despite the millions of dodgy money bunged to Farage, despite not having any real policies, despite the open goal which is the disaster of Brexit with its 8% of GDP hit to the economy, despite all of these things, Reform won the election in England…
What has the Labour Party done since last Friday morning?
Same as they have been doing for the last two years: hand-wringing, mealy mouthed promises, absurd gimmicky things like announce the nationalisation of the British steel industry (a bit late for that: Ravenscraig anyone?) and above all, manouvre, jostle for position, and fill the airwaves with empty soundbites about the change the country needs…
I can’t remember a time when English politics was so bereft of people with what you might call talent…
I was going to say Starmer is the worst PM in living memory, but of course there was Liz Truss – and it was her balls-up which won Labour the GE in 2024…
They best move quick…
Excellent summary of the reality of having a hard right populist representatives in Holyrood. Reform are not a party which accepts the democratic norms in Scotland and history shows us what happens when you try to appease such parties. Trump’s authoritarian regime in USA is the template for how Reform will probably act.
I would also add that Reform don’t believe in devolution and if they gain power at Westminster they will do everything within their power to abolish Holyrood. You cannot treat a party which wishes to abolish your democratic government as a partner under any circumstances.
I am disappointed, but not particularly surprised, by media’s response to Reform in Scotland.
I think vast majority of voters want to see parties working together to improve delivery of services in Scotland. I expect the Greens & Liberal Democrat’s will support John Swinney’s response to Reform and work with government when appropriate in a constructive manner. I would like to think Labour will as well but they historically have seen SNP as their biggest enemy. The Tories have a decision to make and many Tories no longer believe in devolution so they may decide to throw their lot in with Reform? The Tories are now a minor party and it is unlikely that the SNP will get or need any support from them in upcoming parliament.
Best summation of Reform I have seen!
Could you please send this on to BBC Scotland? And to the Chair of Debate Night in particular.
I watched Debate Night the other day (post election) and was shocked and amazed that one of the questions for the panel was…”Has John Swinney shown disrespect to Reform by not inviting them to talks’”
I just couldn’t believe my ears. Reform deserve NO respect at all. They and their policies are among the most odious ever.
The Overton Window has certainly shifted more than ever in the last few years.
Absolutely astonishing that Reform got the votes they did. Seems to me to be two different cohorts voting for them. The first are also racist and horrible and there’s little to be done there. The second though are surely those who are so so easily led. Misled. We somehow have to get to them, whatever your politics are, before it’s too late and we do end up like the US!
If what I read on WIkipedia is true, Reform are now the political party with the highest membership in the whole of UK politics (270,000)…
Labour Party membership has more than halved since 2019, down from over 600,000 under Corbyn…
This is no protest vote, surely?
The Greens also doing well there…
Labour have had 5 years to get their act together and they still have no big policies…
The obvious policies – scrapping 2 child ceiling, winter fuel payment – these things were forced on them by angry Labour MPs…!!!
And remember how they were taking free specs and clothes and all that?
People rightly hate these things…
It’s clearly over for Starmer. He had his chance. He completely blew it….
Cancel culture rules. People who wish to cancel culture shoundn’t be conversed with, or something. Rattle on pavement further to much noise. 380,000 Scots are Beyond The Pale due to Wrongthink.
As cancel culture is one of Reform’s pet hates (not without reason in this case), Swinney is playing into their hands.
Understanding has been left beyond the horizon, and is not an activity to be indulged in.
Its just called having a threshold Billy.
What’s yours?
Should elected MSPs have correct visas to work here and employ staff or are you ok with them residing in another country/continent and just voting and dealing with constituents issues via zoom for the duration of the parliament …like some kind of absentee landlord?
The “Q Saga” is unfortunate but hopefully not fatal to the functioning of Holyrood? I am much too auld & rigid to vote for the Scot Greens but I recognise that the Veggies represent various sections of our society which our largely monochrome political system has ignored? That wide campus includes anybody under 40ish!
Q’s election is a challenge to a least two beliefs. Our view of gender/sex identify and also our sense of national identity?
Leaving aside the former (on which I am unqualified to meaningfully comment), “the Q of who is a Scot” is a fundamental one? There are many pro indy folks who believe that only those born & living in Scotland should have a vote in any constitutional plebescite. “English and other passers-by excluded”? Apparently the norm in other European states? Others say, no that is too narrow, borderline racist & the genie is already out of the bottle? We conceded a wider franchise in 2014.
Qs uncertain residence status reminds me of a serious error I made, lifetimes ago, when as a college HR officer, I did not check a job candidate’s status before issuing a formal offer of employment. I was new, inexperienced, quite “green”!
The Scottish Greens are well intentioned but they can be naive & slipshod in certain matters. But perhaps that is an attraction to their voting base?
Note: An elected Councillor who fails to attend, in person, a local authority meeting in any period of 6 months can be deemed no longer in office. As far as I am aware, no such condition applies to MSPs? Perhaps the “real” issue is that our MSPs, esp List MSPs, are, once elected, not accountable to us, the electors? If they don’t attend meetings, don’t meet voters, leave the party under whose banner they stood, what is the sanction? It’s a five year guaranteed salary with no job description or minimum hours?!
I notice this question remains unanswered.
“380,000 Scots are Beyond The Pale due to Wrongthink.”
No. The Scottish Leader of Reform is beyond the pale. He is not interested in, or acting in the interests of, anyone but his own paymasters.
He backs a policy that would round up and deport millions of people who are happily settled, working and contributing here. At an estimated (costs always go up) cost of £10bn. Our neighbours. Our NHS workers. Our children’s friends and their parents.
You’re OK with this?
Offord & Farage will need a new and loyal enforcement brigade to round up and deport our neighbours. Bypassing policing by consent, our existing police forces and judicary. Do political parties who want to do good need a private army of secret police?
You’re OK with this?
They will (have already) pocket millions of pounds in personal gain, sell influence to foreign actors and turn insider trading into a perk of UK government. They don’t believe in employment rights, unions, workplace safety or secure employment.
The working people that voted Reform are being sold a lie. They deserve better. They deserve representation. They won’t get it from infantile millionaires who boast about how many yachts and cars they have and only ever act in their own financial interest.
It will no doubt play into Reform’s hands in that they would much rather be shouting grievance from the sidelines that taking part in the serious work of government. Reform voters can claim their victimhood and wallow in resentment at being excluded by ‘elites’.
Swinney will know this of course. However he is right not to treat Reform as a serious political party acting in good faith. Because it is not. It is a limited company manufacturing hate. Led by a public-school stockbroker with a proven record of lying, grifting, laziness in public office and racism.
You can’t sit down to talks with someone who wants to bundle your neighbours into a van, put them in a concentration camp and deport them for the crime of skin-colour and religeous belief. No way.
I would draw a subtle distinction between not talking to Reform about “working together” versus “not talking or listening to them”? I would also suggest that Swinney is suffering from too much sun as his “messiah complex” is taking over (see Herald interview with Brian Taylor). He is conflating his role as SNP Leader with that of FM; the !after not yet confirmed? Indeed I have always regarded the role of FM, with all its constraints as being sometimes incompatible with that of a “radical leader” intent on breaking up the UK? I would also like to hear Swinney debate with other leaders the role of class in modern Scotland. He would probably talk about school class sizes; no, not that type of class John!?
Given the current enthusiasm for covering the Central Belt with mega-datacentres in order to make human beings redundant, Stanislaw Lem’s sci-fi tales of civilisations being destroyed by their technological hubris also have resonance. See, for example, ‘The Astronauts’ (1951) and ‘Fiasco’ (1986).