Devolution and The F Bomb

In the Scottish Labour party’s in-house magazine we are told that ‘Labour plan to bypass Holyrood and give direct spending powers to Westminster-run Scotland Office’ – SUNDAY MAIL EXCLUSIVE: Scottish Secretary Ian Murray’s department is to receive £150m to spend north of the border in a controversial shake-up.’

This is the sort of action expected from the Conservatives but now being delivered by Labour.

A Labour spokesman said: “There has clearly been a degree of incompetence within the Scottish Government and this legislation will allow the Scotland Office to invest directly where it sees fit rather than getting bogged down in bureaucracy.”

For ‘bureaucracy’ read ‘democracy’.

How are we to reconcile this with the message we were told for years: that Labour would commit to a widespread programme of constitutional reform including the mythic ‘reform of the House of Lords’ and strengthening devolution? How are we to reconcile this with the multitude of columns extolling the imminent strengthening of devolution powers or even Federalism that have been whitewashed from history?

Labour are abandoning the institution they created, an institution that was supported by 74% of Scots who voted for a devolved parliament to take control of Scottish affairs. They are breaking the Sewell Convention, The Smith Commission, and the Scotland Act of 2012.

This is the end of the era that lasted from the late 90s to today (I’m aware that Labour’s support for devolution was resisted then forced, contingent and opportunistic). But the hypocrisy and the Memory Hole at play is astonishing (or not). The list of politicians and scribes who told us that devolution would be enhanced, not undermined as part of deeper constitutional change is endless, here’s just some of them:

“Keir Starmer has asked Gordon Brown to develop plans to devolve more power across the UK and to rejuvenate the party in Scotland. Both in London and Edinburgh, there is hope that a distinctive new offer, which strategists are calling “radical federalism”.
– Chris Deerin, New Statesman 2021

“The British constitution has to reform, it’s broken, it needs to change. We are going to be as close, within a year or two, to a federal state as you can be in a country where one part of it, one nation, has 85% of the population. For centuries we held to this idea that Britain was a unitary state based on Westminster sovereignty, based on parliament being able to do what it wanted. None of that makes any sense any more.”
– Gordon Brown 2014

“Might the transfer of wide-ranging powers from Brussels, not only to Whitehall but also to the devolved administrations, provide an opportunity to revitalise our democracy through a newly federal UK? Important competencies relating to agriculture, fisheries and the environment will, unless the UK government legislates otherwise, return to the Scottish Parliament and to the Welsh and Northern Ireland Assemblies. Both the devolved and central governments will therefore see a dramatic increase in their powers.”
– Seema Syeda, The Constitutional Unit

“This would mean a radical reshaping of our country along federal lines where every component part of the United Kingdom – Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and the English regions – take more responsibility for what happens in their own communities. It would involve significant changes to how central government operates.”
– Kezia Dugdale ‘Scottish Labour calls for new federal state to unite UK after Brexit’ 2016

“This will make the devolved administrations more like equal partners to the UK government, and will mean, for the first time in the UK, genuine inter-governmental negotiations from which both sides need agreement.”
– Jim Gallagher

“Keir Starmer, the Labour leadership frontrunner, has called for a fully federal UK, devolving power to the nations and regions of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland after Brexit. The shadow Brexit secretary said only a new federal structure for the UK could “repair the shattered trust in politics”
– Rowena Mason, Deputy Editor the Guardian 2020

“The Labour party is expected to set up a people’s convention to study radical reforms of the UK constitution, possible federalism and scrapping the House of Lords after Brexit.”
– Severin Carrell 2017

“I believe in our union of nations. I believe we are better together than any of us would be apart. I believe that each nation can speak with a progressive voice. But we need a new and durable constitutional settlement. Which is why I am delighted that Gordon Brown ’s Commission on the Future of the UK will chart a new course for our union of nations.”
– Keir Starmer 2022

In June of this year Labour announced it would “reset the relationship” between ScotGov & UK Gov, setting up “a new Council of the Nations and regions.” This would involve the Prime Minister, the FMs of Scotland and Wales, the FM and deputy FMs of Northern Ireland, and the Mayors of Combined Authorities.

This would effectively give Scotland and Wales the same status as Manchester.

There are several problems with this, apart from, you know completely going against the democratically expressed will of the Scottish people, and, er, the sheer hypocrisy of undermining the very institutions you created. The first is that this impulse to be not only against independence but against devolution will go down badly with people because it will be perceived to be anti-Scottish (because it is). Secondly, it will be hard for Ian Murray not to become used to exercising this power. Once you’ve bypassed Holyrood why not do it again, and again? It’s power and it’s pork-barrel politics. But there’s a danger here too. The urge to hollow-out and undermine Scotland’s parliament will be hard for Labour to resist, but at the same time Anas Sarwar has his eyes on power at Holyrood in 2026. These moves will not only undermine his chances but also weaken the very parliament he is running for.

Finally, who is going to stand up for Holyrood? The institution has been under relentless attack from left right and centre. It has been smeared as being incapable of drafting good legislation and being packed with low-grade politicians. Much of this has come from attacks on the incumbent Scottish government that have become criticisms of the institution. Somehow lost in all this was the principle of devolution and Scottish democracy.

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  1. Bill says:

    Given all that has recently gone on in England, this act may well prove to be the straw that not only breaks a back, but unites and re-energises the movement for independence. On independence, SNP were never going to deliver as they enjoyed running the Holyrood parliament too much. No single issue party (Based purely on independence) would survive beyond the first election in a new state. Certainly a more eclectic parliament would ensue and surely greater democracy and involvement of the people.

    This act is the nail in the coffin of Labour as a party of change. No to the 2 cap benefit, continued vilification of immigrants, singing the Tory line on islamophobia, economic austerity phase 2, I could go on!!

    Cum a dol – nae passaran – roll on independence

    Bill

    As ever Mike, good article, all of the most recent have been excellent, keep up the good work, don’t lose heart.

  2. Claire McNab says:

    An odd figure: £150 million for Ian Murray to spend as he chooses.

    It’s not clear whether this us a one-off pot or an annual budget, but let’s assume it’s £150m/year.

    That is not enough to fund any major new insfrastructure, or any significant social program. But it is enough to offer say a hundred grants of £1.5 million each to the winners of Blair-style competition between local authorities. An arts centre here, a playground there, an upgraded fishing harbour there, and a smattering of prettified streetscapes.

    This will allow the Scotiand Office signs to be plastered everywhere as the generous benefactors of each project, and it will set communities to compete gainst each other.

    So for relatively little money, Murray will be able to restore to Scotland the sense of being an underling of London. Summy, but effective

    1. Paul Cochrane says:

      And how much funding has the cuts to heating allowances been? £160m? Stolen from the COAPs (Cold OAPs) and given to the Ambassador ini the English Embassy?

  3. Jeel says:

    So what vehicle delivers independence then?

  4. John says:

    Scottish’ Labour are focussed on regaining power at Holyrood in 2026. The recent General Election has shown that ((under Starmer & McSweeney) they are now a ruthless political party who will do and say whatever to obtain power.
    The SNP are a tired administration who appear to have lost confidence in themselves and Holyrood. Labour sense blood and are circling the decaying SNP carcass like a shark.
    If or when Labour get their hands on Holyrood they will be equally ruthless in trying to use it for the benefit of Labour Party rather than Scotland. With the centralised control of party I cannot see a Labour led administration at Holyrood deviating much from Westminster in many policy areas. The current problems in Scotland are different in some areas from UK but as equally deep seated. This new Labour administration seems innately ‘conservative’ and due to this I find it difficult to see them resolving these problems either at Holyrood or Westminster.
    The only upside I can see is that this may lead to disillusionment with Labour and devolution with Labour members and supporters and wider electorate in Scotland.

    1. Alec Lomax says:

      Don’t neglect SLab’s chums in the media, especially Pacific Quay.

      1. John says:

        Alex – I have no doubt that if Labour form next Holyrood government that they will be given an easy ride by vast majority north of border as they will be seen as best defence against independence.
        Much of the same right leaning media will, however, be hostile to Labour south of the border so this will not be an easy trick to pull off.
        The rest of this decade are looking like they are going to be economically difficult so whoever is in power is going to be pretty unpopular regardless of media slant eg look at large sections of media’s support for Tories at GE and the Tories still had worst ever vote.

  5. Tom Ultuous says:

    The red Tory’s stance on this and PR reminds me of an episode of ‘Ripping Yarns’ in which Michael Palin is sent to a posh boarding school by his parents where he’s bullied by the school bully. He spends his first few secondary school years fighting against the school bully system to such good effect that in his final year he’s installed as the school bully. The episode ends with him stating “Yes, the school bully system needs reform – but not yet.”

  6. Douglas says:

    Yeah, Mike, you finally get it…

    When, as loyal readers of your blog – and not the horrible Wings – we brought these things up years ago, you shut us down and chucked us off your webpage…

    Now you get it, now you see it, though not enough: 79-2014 is the high tide of Scottish nationalism…

    We are now in the process of watching the gains of 79-2014 being dismantled before our eyes….

    So, now is not the time for fighting, it is the time for resistnace; for all our faults…

    1. Actually Douglas you were kicked off the site at your own request because you would leave wild accusatory and abusive comments late at night.

      1. Douglas says:

        I’d rather not get into it, Mike. Not in public.
        Without making you want to wallow in it beyond this post, you don’t think you were a bit slow to see what was happening?
        There are loads of “the disenchanted” like me.
        We don’t like wings, or Alba nor do we believe in a Sturgeon conspiracy theory…
        But we’ve been badly let down and feel like we have nowhere to go…
        Thanks for replying anyway…

        1. I think that the characterisation of me as some establishment stooge was wildly inaccurate and a smear.

          But I agree that ‘we’ve been badly let down and feel like we have nowhere to go’.

          I laid this out here https://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2024/08/18/scotland-in-limbo/ and in multiple articles over the past few years.

          1. Douglas says:

            I don’t think I ever went as far as a stooge, but, yeah, you’re right in the sense that I thought it was in your interest not to see the truth.

            That is probably true, Mike. So that was not very polite of me, but on the other hand I didn’t think it was ever cynical of your part. I just thought you couldn’t see it because it was too depressing or hard to muster a response to…

            I mean, how do we muster a response to this situation?? We all.know a lot of good folk in the SNP. We all know they sold us out and yet there is no alternative. It is hellish difficult to argue for a way forward…

          2. It is hard and its going to be hard and I dont see a way through though I do think that, as i put it in Scotland in Limbo:
            “None of this is easy but at least we will be no longer working under misapprehensions and misinformation. Movements of change will have to work on multiple levels: community, city, region, nation and inter-nation to be effective. It is impossible to see, for example, how Scotland could respond to the toxicity of the tech platforms that have amplified anomie and monetised violent disorder. As Adrian Pabst has written: “In their current configuration, tech platforms unleash barbaric forces that portend a post-democratic and anti-political age in which technology rules unopposed. Social media destabilises not just governments but the social fabric of countries by injecting poisonous propaganda into the body politic.” While you might wish Humza Yousaf luck in his battle against Elon Musk, you might think he’ll need a hand.”

    2. Graeme Purves says:

      Resistnace is futile, I reckon. But I have a vague memory of being part of the ‘Scottish Resistance’ when I was a member of the 79 Group.

      1. Douglas says:

        Maybe you could give us some ideas, Graeme?
        Though I fear that if someone broke into the old parliament these days, they’d get done for terrorism offences probably…
        But you have seen the highs and lows, growth spurts and periods of stagnation…
        What’s your take?

  7. WT says:

    I don’t have time to comment properly but really what do you expect? And this action actually makes no difference IF you truly believe in independence. Who gives a phuq about devolution except devolutionists? Time to get out of this union and honestly no one in the party of independence has a scooby of an idea how to achieve it and many don’t really want it anyway. This is what happens when you phuq about for ten years.

  8. Satan says:

    It is not democratically accountable (about as unaccountable the civil service that formulates EU policies, really), but there is always hope that the civil service are more competent than the Scottish government who have shown that they can spend £150MM of our cash for nothing, several times.

  9. Satan says:

    Mororic boats, a dying shipyard, a pointless airport, an entire education policy binned, a dead steel fabricatior, an Indian oligarch, a moronic offshore wind energy lotto, an illegal and pointless bottle deposit/recycling company, decade-long ‘enquiries’ etc……… And they wonder why there is a social housing crisis? At least give us people who know what they are doing and why they are doing it.

  10. Satan says:

    Subsidy of bus travel for the wealthy, subsidy of council tax for the wealthy, subsidy of university education for the wealthy, subsidy of electricity bills for the wealthy, etc. Scotland is governed by the bourgiousie, for the bourgiousie.

    1. Bus travel for the wealthy? I think in your unmanaged rage your just talking shite

      1. Satan says:

        No, you are talking shite, mike, and you are supporting free busses for 21-year-old oligarchs. I don’t know why, but that’s what you are doing. Arse about tit wealth redistibution to the bourgouise.

        1. 21 year old oligarchs? : )

    2. Alec Lomax says:

      If only we had direct rule from London !

  11. Satan says:

    To be fair, most people were astonished at how low-grade MSPs were in 1990. That was with the likes of Donald Dewar. Today, I think most people think it has descended to the level of a circus that is heavy on the clowns. Honestly, even Jacob Rees-Mogg looks like an intellectual powerhouse compared to anyone in the Scottish parliament. And that is our fault.

      1. Derek Thomson says:

        “Moronic boats” was the best of the bunch.

      2. Satan says:

        You have a problem with engaging in conversation with other people. I would counsel against ‘you’re a doss cunt’ as an opener. But hope is the last to die….

        1. Hi Satan – I don’t have a problem engaging with hundreds of people every day. You just seem deeply unpleasant and loath everything that is written on here. I don’t know why you would do that.

        2. John says:

          Satan – reading your comments and trying to engage in meaningful discussion with you reminds me of Monty Python 5 minutes argument sketch when Michael Palin walks into wrong room and discovers he in the room for abuse rather than argument.

    1. John says:

      Satan – You have become utterly delusional not only in what you write but in thinking anyone is interested in or gives any credence to the utter nonsense you spew out.
      Nurse!!

    2. Alec Lomax says:

      A wheen of havers. You are a disgrace to Hell, man !

  12. Wul says:

    Labour party should read “The Ugly American”.

    Us Scots will take the money (“Cheers bud!”) and not give a shit whose flag is on the tin.

    £150m is pocket money. Wouldn’t even buy you a consignment of out-of-date PPE at today’s VIP prices. It’s just a (fairly lavish) marketing campaign.

    Who’ll help me put saltire stickers over all the union flags on the wee plaques that are meant remind us of our place?

  13. Douglas says:

    My feeling about the current situation is, as somebody now half way through my fifties, that I am a wee bit worried about the young folk in Scotland. I think they are, through no fault of their own, living through very bleak times… I think we need to reach out to them more and help them more…. I really feel sorry for them and would like to help them…

    I mean, I paid no attention whatsoever to Scottish independence until I was an adult, though my dad used to take me out leafleting for the SNP in the 70s when I was a bairn. My dad, now Alba, was always totally solid SNP in the 70s and 80s.

    So I would go out leafleting doors with him and, of course, at school you’d wear the SNP badge and they’d say, “WTF is that, Scottish Nosepickers Party!”… That’s what they used to say in the 70s about the SNP… which back then was an irrelevance as a political force, or seemed to me to be so…

    And then at Uni in Glasgow in the late 80s, well, I was kind of a Marxist then, though I never did completely buy into it, and certainly never into so-called “scientific Marxism”, though I saw some great folk, like a Bolivian miner giving a talk at the QM who might well hace been Evo Morales…

    But ultimately, I was always sceptical. But my feeling in Glasgow in the late 80s is that politics had lost its glamour and appeal, it had been displaced by the music scene.

    I’d go to socialist meetings at the uni, and they couldnay get a quoram!!! You know? And then I remember that time, they needed me for a quorom, and they were “counting on me”, but Umberto Ecco was giving a lecture and so we went to that and blew them out… LOL….and it was brilliant to see Umberto Ecco!!! Who gave his lecture in Italian, but it didn’t matter… and I saw Carlos Fuentes too, which probably helped spark my hispanophilia… Carlos Fuentes spoke perfect English, better than we Scots speak…

    Because of Gabo, that is, Gabriel García Marquez. An absolutely fantastic writer. Not just “100 Years of Solitude”. All of his novels are absolutely superbely written. There isn’t one that isn’t anything other than brilliant…. I just finished “The General In His Labrynth” the other day, about the last days of Simon Bolivar, “the liberator”, and his trip down the river from Santa Fé to Bogotá… a great political and revolutionary who has been betrayed and lost the dream of a united states of south america which would have been a challenge to the anglosaxon north…

    Gabo is just sensational… and I was always dubious about the historical novel… but Gabo is one of the true great of world literature—

    But no one can write as well as Gabo. He is simply, an absolutely outstanding writer…

    But I got into hispanic culture and that saved me, literrally. I became and still am a huge hispanic junkie. I absolutely love everything the hispanci world..

    But I’m worried about Brexit and that young Scots think they can’t access that, you know? I was lucky, I went to Spain in 92, and it went well for me for no apparent reason…

    That’s when you know the people who run the country are w*nkers.. When someone says, “Breixt? OK But keep Erasmus out of it! Let young people travel and explore!” And they say, “No”…

    So, I am concerned about the next generation, and as for mine, we need to meet more.

    That Tom Nairn day was fckn brilliant. I was buzzing wi it… We need to do that and less of this (ie, online)…..

    1. Douglas says:

      So, there’s a word I learned reading “The General In His Labirynth” in South American Spanish which is “Trujimán”.
      The General, the Liberator hurls this term of abuse at several underlings / rivals…
      ¡Eres un trujimán!
      Is that not a brilliant word?

      A trujiman is a) an interpreter and b) a traitor or a back-stabber, both things…
      And they have that whole thing in South America about the translator / interpreter / traitor…
      The figure of “la malinche”, a huge figure in Mexican culture…
      “La Malinche” was the interpretor and lover of Hernán Cortés, el conquistador…
      It’s still a term of abuse in Mexico, to reference “la malinche”.
      Not in Spain, these terms don’t exist in Castilian Spanish…

      Anyway, sorry for going off on one, but I ask myself what the inquisitive Scot with his wonderlust, what Kenneth White called the “nomadic Scot” is going to do with him or herself after they have closed down so many of his / her options?

      I think we ought to do something…

  14. g0bsmacked says:

    There’s nothing remotely new here, this ‘story’ was originally published by Paul Hutcheon in the Daily Record back on June 13th (i.e. 3 weeks before the general election)
    Don’t take my word for it.
    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/labour-government-give-scotland-office-33016036
    Secondly, the funding referred to is not some ‘attack’ on the Scottish Govt, it’s what is otherwise known as ‘City Region Deals’ which have been rolled out since 2014 with the agreement of both governments and which several city/regions have already benefited from.
    Again, no need to take my word for it.
    https://www.gov.scot/policies/cities-regions/regional-growth-deals/
    The actual substance of this is a 10-year-old funding mechanism and a newspaper article which is over 2 months old.
    So why would that become an issue now (a more curious mind than Mr Small might ask) just a matter of days after ScotGov announced it was no longer providing winter fuel payments to all pensioners?
    Hmmm, deflection anyone?

    1. John says:

      Gobsmacked – the UK government only announced it was stopping universal WFP a couple of weeks ago. The way it is being applied is pretty arbitrary and will hurt at least 2 million people just above cut off line – don’t take my words for that these are the words of Age Concern. You should also take into account elderly people not only spend far more time indoors but also are more likely to have medical conditions which make them more susceptible to cold. This will all be worse for pensioners in Scotland where winters are longer and colder. I am a pensioner and not personally against means testing the WFP but firmly oppose how it is being implemented for reasons given. If means testing cannot be applied fairly or economic you do not apply it – surely this is is a pretty basic rule of benefits.
      In addition Scottish government have been given minimal notice which makes it even more difficult to respond to this. I am critical of many aspects of current Holyrood government but in this case for Labour to respond- ‘you should have planned’ for this unforeseen Westminster decision’ just doesn’t cut it.
      The whole episode makes me think that Keir Starmer saying he wants work more closely with devolved governments looks a pretty hollow statement.
      Freeport’s and all the other direct funding of projects in devolved countries are both contrary to fundamental principles of devolution and often no more than pork barrelling by Westminster.

    2. It’s not an attack on the Scottish Government its an attack on the devolution settlement supported by 74% of the electorate.

      The Sewel Convention states: “Westminster would not normally legislate with regard to devolved matters in Scotland without the consent of the Scottish parliament”. The Smith agreement said this principle should “be put on a statutory footing”

    3. Alec Lomax says:

      As you well know the WFA cuts are the action of the Right Honourable Rachel Reeves MP. And you put the blame on the Scottish Government? Cute or just disingenuous ?

  15. Hamish Scott says:

    Even if they closed Holyrood tomorrow, the genie of independence is out the bottle, released by devolution.

  16. Alistair Tuach says:

    )as a yes voter and supporter of independence, I no longer support the current dev

  17. Alistair Tuach says:

    As a yes voter I no longer support the current model of devolution. The government has failed across the board. My own area of interest, social housing has been devastated by budget cuts. However, as important, is that the groups in control of the parties have worked out that the voting system can be rigged by being near the top of the list, and candidates can get what I have described as a slow lottery win. An MSP only has to get near the top and they have cracked it. As a list member, you can body swerve most of the constituency work and spend most of your time building up your media profile.

    1. Satan says:

      I have no idea who my list MSPs are and I have no desire to know. I know that my local councillors will respond to a concern within the hour and talking to an MSP is about as fruitful as talking to a pebble. I think they don’t take anyone seriously unless they have p.l.c. behind their name.

    2. Frank Mahann says:

      The only alternative to devolution at the moment is direct rule from London.

      1. Alan Laird says:

        Great idea, that. Lets try and provoke that.
        Any money that comes directly from London to local councils is deducted from their subsidy by the Scottish government.
        John Swinney, who announced he wished to co-operate with the new London Labour Government, recants and refuses to co-operate in any way.
        Any Party that wishes to contest a Scottish election must be registered and funded in Scotland.
        All Parties registered in Scotland should publish their annual membership, accounts and donations.
        All Government buildings (local and national) should be prohibited by law from flying any flag other than the Saltire.
        Only National Embassies can fly their own flag, and only if it flys a Saltire alongside. This will apply to any UK Union structure (for instance the two virtually deserted ‘Scotland Office’ buildings in Glasgow and Edinburgh) – and only if they apply for National Embassy Status.

        There, that sounds annoying enough for starters. Other annoying ideas welcomed

  18. Richard says:

    As I see things, the move towards creating a unitary state has been under way for some considerable time. The closeness of the 2014 referendum result gave the Establishment, the heirarchy of power and privilege, a scare. The term ‘United Kingdom’ has all-but disappeared from the mainstream media, and has been replaced by ‘Britain’ and ‘British’. We are told that “Language informs thought”, and they have been planting the word and therefore the idea. There is no country, no sovereign state called Britain, but the Establishment seem intent on creating one; firstly under the Tories, and now under Starmer’s Labour government. Having no codified constitution gives them considerable freedom of action to do so.
    It’s what I see happening, anyway, as an ordinary ‘man in the street’.

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