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Scotland’s Deciding



It seems Alistair Darling has been cast aside after his disastrous tv debate performance with Salmond, and Gordon Brown has been put in charge to make the case at this late hour. Such a change from the Yes team would have been pounced on by a conscious and professional media (see here for a neat synopsis of media problems).

So instead it’s come to this. Gordon Brown playing the Jock on the Big Telly to the whole of the UK (Scotland Decides – the Dimbleby Interviews’, BBC 1 broadcast Tuesday 16 Sept 2014).

He points to David Dimbleby: “You’ve just come up from London on a day trip”. Few will miss the irony. Dimbleby bristles. We’re all interested in Scotland now. For a bit anyway. “I’ve been up and down for weeks”.

Brown is at pains to get the mood right. He talks of talking direct to his ‘fellow Scots’ (something he has failed to do throughout the whole campaign , instead relying on pre-packaged invite-only events).

This is the man who spoke of ‘British Jobs for British Workers’ and urged us to plant Union Jacks in our gardens.

It may be too late for the patriot game.

Instead what we’re offered today is The Vow. It’s like The Voice but instead of Tom Jones, Will.I.Am and Kylie we have Nick Clegg, Call Me Dave and Ed Mil.I.Band. Their backs are away from us as they offer a vow, but no-one knows what it is.

It’s a great idea for a game show.

“We’ll give you something (we won’t say what) but we’ll give you it really quickly seemed to be today’s pitch.

There seems to be a recurring problem with time in the No campaign’s whole approach. Remember they wanted the referendum, first not at all, then ‘bring it on’, then back to ‘Never’ and lines in the sand, then they wanted it ‘immediately’, and stop ‘messing about’ was the line. The long complaints about ‘when will this be over?’, like kids in the back of the car.

It’s the same with the ‘the most successful union ever in the history of humanity’ claim. So we have this long stretching back, always backwards, then this sudden huge leap forward into an abyss of The Vow.

Timing has been a problem for Brown throughout his career, and now he’s shadowed by three other politicians whose careers seem untimely. Miliband who says nothing, Clegg who said too much and Cameron who listens thoughtfully.

Remember this is the man who now lectures us on pensions but laid waste the pensions industry.

In 1997 Gordon Brown’s notorious “pension stealth tax” reduced the value of retirement funds by at least £100 billion.

The total current and future impact of Mr Brown’s move — known technically as the abolition of Advanced Corporation Tax (ACT) relief — has been calculated by Terry Arthur, a fellow of the Institute of Actuaries, in a paper written for the professional body. Mr Arthur said: “What happened in 1997 represented an enormous and ongoing raid on the assets of UK company pension schemes. My research shows it would be very hard to justify an impact of less than £100 billion — and even £150 billion may still be a conservative estimate.”

And now? Gordon Brown talks to Dimbleby about the UK as a powerful force for redistribution, ‘between regions and nations’ … ‘Home Rule’ … even listening very closely it’s difficult to discern what he’s actually saying. It goes something like this: Britain is centralised, undemocratic and unfair, but we can fix it. Britain is broken in different ways and each constituent part gets a different part to fix the way its uniquely broken, so Scotland gets pensions, and Wales gets disability benefit and London gets housing benefit.

It’s one of the strangest, most garbled political narratives you are ever likely to hear.

As Robin McAlpine has written: “It is often difficult to tell whether Brown is delusional or dishonest. Either he really believes that the UK is redistributing wealth as a result of an economic model he put in place (delusional) or he is just telling Scotland that in the hope we’re stupid (dishonest). Either he really believes that the UK economy is sound (delusional) or he just wants to distract Scots from the reality of modern Britain (dishonest). Either he thinks he is viewed as a giant of Scottish politics (delusional) or… Actually, this is just plain delusional.

Neither redistribution nor socialism are on the table for Scots if we vote No. Austerity and benefit cuts are the only things on the table. If Gordon Brown wants to make any amends for the harm his tenure did Scotland, just scrape up the decency to admit this truth.”

Attempts to resuscitate the corpse of British democracy will fail, not because they might not be good ideas, but because they are issued from an imaginary power base. Brown may be surrounded by a faithful press pack and party acolytes but he is further from power now than he has ever been. His Fife bunker may be well-appointed but it suffers from Northern Exposure.

Brown’s detachment from reality – and from the processes of democracy is not a surprise. His appearance as Prime Minister had little to do with normal process.

As Tom Nairn put it in the past:
Brown was not of course elected, parachuted from On High, or installed by an indignant mob: over many years he materialized in fits and starts, glimpsed intermittently like a ghost from times past, brooding but saying almost nothing. Then suddenly the spirit was there, seated all too comfortably in the Anglo-Brit living room, account-books and Britannic sermons to hand. The armchair’s previous occupant had left for Jerusalem. Such is death in life.
Now he reappears like a Ring-Wraith to protect Britain, the Zombie Nation speaking gibberish to the faithful. Not so much speaking truth to power as speaking power to truth.
He talks of realising that ‘change is in the air’ but it’s ‘the wrong change’. He will bring about the ‘right change’ but he can’t tell us what that is.
He has a handful of carefully worn phrases. Some of them are well shaped. He says: “I vote for Scotland leading Britain – not leaving it”. It’s not clear whether he means him leading Britain or ‘us’, somehow. It seems unlikely. I check my Better Together leaflet in which JK Rowling tells me, helpfully: “This is not a General Election.” Amongst the stingingly offensive propaganda lies this gem: “Leaving the UK means more expensive shopping. Today everyone in the UK pays the same prices in supermarkets even though it costs more to transport food to Scotland.”
Of course we don’t produce any food here, so it has to be trucked north to our greedy feckless outstretched hands. We should be grateful they keep it cheap. It’s such a gratuitously offensive concept, but this insult lies buried and lost within the wider thinking of Better Together as us a donor recipient.
Leading not leaving.
Reviewing My Scotland, Our Britain, Ian Bell has written (The Tragedy of Gordon Brown’, Scottish Review of Books): “Labour, Scottish and British, had many chances. One aspect of the fact is that many in its ranks never cared much for home rule, far less for independence, and would still rid themselves of the Holyrood nuisance if they could. As with Brown, the Westminster connection has justified their careers. As with Brown, they cannot conceive of an existence for themselves or their country that does not have London as its terminus and pinnacle.”
All the ‘pooling and sharing’ all this empty talk of a ‘sharing Union’ doesn’t hide the reality of the Poverty in Scotland 2014 report that outlined how UK austerity measures will push 100,000 more Scottish children into poverty by 2020.
Time’s up. It’s slipping away. Even Dimbleby knew it.

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  1. davidmccann24 says:

    The only thing Brown and the rest of the Unionist mob are saving is their jobs!
    Just imagine the scenario. 2015 General election and they try to sell ‘extra powers’ to the English electorate. Tories and UK will have a field day

  2. Fed up with the lies and propaganda of the London Media Industrial Complex says:

    Gordon Brown was interviewed on American ABC News by Diane Sawyer he said and I quote ” I come from North Britain. ” He couldn’t bring himself to utter the very name of our nation, Scotland. How many times can this creep stab his own country in the back ? There’s nothing quite like a self loathing Scot, is there ?

    1. Dean Richardson says:

      He has the same problem uttering the name of my nation too, always referring to it as ‘regions’. Mind you, I bet he has no problem shouting, “get into those English bastards” whenever we face each other in the sporting arena. I always thought there was nothing like a self-loathing English person, but I guess such people are much the same anywhere – always miserable and wanting everyone else to be miserable, always treacherous and never to be trusted.

  3. deewal says:

    Gordon Brown is a liar. Full stop.

  4. bringiton says:

    Scotland is not a country as far as these British Labour careerists are concerned which is why they pay lip service to devolved power.
    Devolution is a mechanism to pacify the restless natives so that North British politicians can continue to enjoy life high on the hog.
    Patronising arrogance is their main characteristic with a degree of hypocrisy thrown in when they pretend that devolution is a good thing in that it protects Scots from policies being implemented by the British parliament.
    In saying this,they make it absolutely clear that people in Scotland are going in a totally different direction from those south of the border and make the case for a fully accountable (fully funded) government here in Scotland.

  5. I’ve always felt uncomfortable when I’ve heard Gordon Brown’s slogans – they’ve never hit the mark anywhere – just empty PR.

    Wishing you all the best for a big Yes vote tomorrow, from here in Birmingham. Thanks for such stimulating articles and comments. James

    1. yerkitbreeks says:

      …and assuming a YES, best wishes for more civic democracy throughout the rUK. I have enjoyed reading your constructive criticisms.

    2. Dean Richardson says:

      Likewise from Worcester.

      As the Oakland Raiders would say, just win, baby. It’s just a shame the Raiders don’t do much winning themselves.

    3. Fed up with the lies and propaganda of the London Media Industrial Complex says:

      When Gordon Brown speaks or should that be drones on and on, it’s all slogans, sound bites, platitudes, banalities, inanities, it’s excruciating, after listening to one of his mind numbingly tedious speeches, one comes away with the feeling of you can’t remember a thing about it !!

      1. Dean Richardson says:

        Yet people pay good money to attend his lectures. What gives?

  6. Reblogged this on Lorraine Cleaver and commented:
    He points to David Dimbleby: “You’ve just come up from London on a day trip”. Few will miss the irony. Dimbleby bristles. We’re all interested in Scotland now. For a bit anyway. “I’ve been up and down for weeks”.

  7. Tog says:

    For all his faults and past failures Brown did come across as someone with genuine beliefs, a philosophy and passion where as Alex came as being only interested in one thing independence. If Brown had been more heavily used earlier I think we on the Yes side would be in big trouble. Thankful that the two debates were with Darling. If one had been with Brown and one with Cameron instead the polls would likely be in a very different place

    1. yerkitbreeks says:

      Years ago, when Inde was beginning to bubble up I recall a lawyer saying to a politician on tele that it was the legal profession which maintained what was left of integrity here in 1707 ” when you all wanted to run south to pretend to be English “.

      Broon took elocution lessons in an attempt to assimilate, while Salmond harangued and finally left Westminster for Holyrood.

      “the Westminster connection has justified their careers” is the corollary to what Salmond stands for and explains why most of the Lab/Con/Lib dross left to put the case at Holyrood simply cannot hold a candle to the likes of Harvie, Sturgeon, let alone Salmond.

      1. Dean Richardson says:

        If Crash Gordon took elocution lessons, then his tutor was taking the piss as well as his money, although Brown probably put the lessons down on his exes claim form as ‘miscellaneous’. He still sounds Scottish to English ears, but what sticks in our craw is his rabid Anglophobia and general spiteful malevolence.

    2. Clootie says:

      Crude deflection

      Alex Salmond is interested in Independence for what it delivers for the people of Scotland regarding social justice.

      To imply otherwise is an attempt to mislead.

      1. PeterK says:

        You really have swallowed it all hook, line and sinker.

    3. Dirth says:

      I tended to think Brown was was principled and honest, that vanished ,
      Stupid or delusional ? Both
      If he can’t say “I am Scottish” as opposed to “North British” he has no hope of even understand why folk see YES as a future for Scotland and it’s children ,
      He is too “City of London” orientated, and that doesn’t work
      His Pension Fund raid and the Gold Reserve sell off were a step too far.
      Time, I think, for Brown to call it a day

    4. Robert Graham says:

      are you on medication ? the reason i ask is this person ,this personality damaged deluded liar who seems to orbit some parallel universe this is the person who avoids real people his few and far between talks by invitation only and vetted all venues are secrete until an hour or so before the appointed labour supporters pay homage to this person he only speaks to tame reporters with the usual questions that never uncover any sort of truth i do agree he should have been in this debate earlier it was maybe because he can’t work even with his own kind that he has been held back as a final burst of passion and you think this nut is great oh ok it takes all sorts i suppose

  8. Valerie says:

    He also said that his new powers would be written in stone… as a child of the Manse he would be converse with the imagery and symbolism here…. nothing like comparing yourself to God is there, Gordon? Your rambling pomposity knows no bounds!

  9. Fed up with the lies and propaganda of the London Media Industrial Complex says:

    How do you know Gordon Brown is telling lies ?

    Answer, He’s moving his lips !!

    1. Robert Graham says:

      ha ha with you on that one as is prob most of the country as well

  10. JWil says:

    In spite of the bravado in the interview I thought Brown was nervous. If you watched his feet they were rocking back on his heels most of the time. He was doing a Darling in spouting forth at a great rate of knots to ensure he got it all in. I was quite impressed by Dimbleby’s questioning. In spite of Brown s defections Dimbleby always came back to the actual question he asked, but Brown continued to be evasive. I did think Dimbleby could have destroyed Brown on a number of topics, e.g. his pensions raid and the fact the UK pensions are the worst in Europe.

    Another thing that annoys me is Labour’s claim that devolution was all down to them when many Labour people were against it. I have never heard it debated in public about the claim by some that Britain was forced into giving Scots devolution by the EEC (as it was then), because the EC were on the point of trying to bring a number of the Russian satellites in as members and to see any sort of shenanigans over Scotland’s desire for a devolved government would have been a no no.

  11. Fed up with the lies and propaganda of the London Media Industrial Complex says:

    ”The deception of others is rooted in the deception of oneself.” I think Gordon Brown is both, delusional and dishonest.

    Gordon Brown walks out of a TV interview in a HUFF, you just take can’t him any where, can you ? he isn’t house trained.

  12. macart763 says:

    Three years of fear, smear and media misdirection. The past fortnight has seen them dial up the volume to eleven. I’m not impressed, I’m not afraid, I’m angry and determined.

    Tomorrow its our turn to have our say and pass judgement on the state and its representatives, who have with deliberation, released this strategy upon the Scottish electorate. Its our turn to counter fear with hope and confidence. Mr Brown and the institution he represents have failed the people of Scotland on every level for the last time. Their most recent failure being their conduct throughout this campaign toward their own electorate.

    We’re done with the politics of fear.

    Tomorrow, let’s show them the door.

  13. Willie Hogg says:

    Win or lose the referendum, Darling’s campaign has disaffected a large section of the Labour Party’s support and they have gone to the RIC and others. Brown has been sent to reasure them that Labour is still the party for them. If he contributes to a No all fair and well, if not Scottish Labour will stand a chance of gaining influence in an independent Scotland.

  14. Bugger (the Panda) says:

    Gordon Brown

    “delusional or dishonest”

    how about

    Delusional and dishonest?

    He seems to be so delusional that he just not understand what dishonesty is. Anything he says, like the £2 billion oil revenues would be all of Scotland’s revenues after independence and would not support all the oap pensions in Scotland.

    Maybe innumerate should be added to his character.

  15. JWil says:

    On The National News the BBC tell us about the increase in employment figures. It also tells us that wages are well behind inflation and it could be years before they catch up.

    On BBC Scotland they tell us about the increase in employment figures but no mention of low wage levels. There is also an outside broadcast from a hotel in Glasgow which has taken on a couple of new employees and the BBC paints a picture that everything in the garden is rosy.

    This is a perfect example of how BBC Scotland manipulates the news to suit its Better Together agenda.

  16. Sure Scot says:

    To all yes voters-
    How many job loses do you think is acceptable to achieve your dream of independence? 
    How many home repossessions do you think is acceptable to achieve your dream of independence? 
    Both will definitely happen to ordinary working class scots as a direct result of independence! 
    My answer to both questions is No.
    What is yours? 
    Think about it………VOTE NO!

    1. Dirth says:

      To be a bit pedantic, you ask for a quantity in the answer ,yet you say No is the answer, with respect you’re not even answering your own question
      I’ve thought about this since the referendum was announced
      That’s why I’ll be voting YES

      1. Sure Scot says:

        Typo – I meant none!
        So how many do you think is acceptable then?

  17. Antoine Bisset says:

    We yesterday received in the post a BT leaflet which contains a number of flat out lies.

    “Our Scottish Parliament already has full power over our NHS…”
    As we do not have control over NHS Scotland income, this cannot be true.

    “As part of the UK we get £1200 higher public spending per Scot.”
    Well, technically this may be correct. But as there is no mention of the fact that we contribute more per head and that as this is really only us getting back part of what we pay in, I would certainly call it dissembling.

    “Scottish pensions are guaranteed by over 63 million people across the UK. When the oil runs out our population will be getting older. We cannot rely on this declining resource to guarantee our future.”

    Well, it is proportional. 63 million people guarantee 63 million pensions. So there should be no especial problem with 5 million people guaranteeing 5 million pensions. (This paragraph continues the received canard of the English subsidising the Scots, of course, which runs like a background refrain through everything.)
    The population will be getting older, is getting older, all the time. By the time the oil runs out our great-grandchildren will be octogenarians, though. It will not happen any time soon. When it does we will start fracking in W. Lothian. Nor do we intend to rely on this resource for our ongoing prosperity.

    “Leaving the UK means more expensive shopping. … One look at the UK and Ireland shows what price rises could be like if we vote to leave the UK.”
    A Tesco basket receipt is shown for same items in UK and in Ireland. Sure enough, the Irish prices are higher. No mention is made of the fact that prices in Irish shops have always been higher than in the UK going back to the time when Ireland used the punt, and a long time before.
    Nor does it mention that Tesco have not gone along with it either, as this quote (from BBC website) indicates;
    “They said this suggestion was “entirely speculative” and wrote to a querying customer: “I can confirm that this is not true”, adding that it had “a great business in Scotland” and would “continue to offer the best prices whatever the outcome of the referendum.”

    “Putting up a border with our biggest customer will cost jobs.”
    I am now struggling to keep a straight face. What about all the jobs that will be created by putting up the fencing and watchtowers? Really, no one except Ed Miliband has suggested a physical border, with guards?

    “Losing the pound means higher interest rates.”
    Well, this is perhaps the only statement that is not a lie. It is merely speculation and a scare story. It will not happen in Scotland alone if we keep using the pound, but in the entire UK, if it happens at all. What is certain is that interest rates will rise over the next five years, because the Bank of England has said so.

    ““This is not a general election, after which we can curse the result,…” says JK Rowling.”
    I am not sure if that is meant to be taken literally, and if so, what kind of curse?
    The real curse would be to live another fifty years as a slave of the oligarchs in the UK.

  18. Antoine Bisset says:

    I received an invitation to one of Gordon Brown’s ticket only book evenings. Oh, you thought he was just talking about voting NO? Actually he was promoting his book and confirmed that he would sign copies after the talk. I suppose you would have to buy a copy for that – I declined the invitation.

  19. Sure Scot says:

    No is the progressive vote that will bring more devolution.
    Independence and seperation is a huge unnecessary gamble with our future our children and our grandchildren’s futures!
    VOTE NO!

    1. Dirth says:

      “No is the progressive vote that will bring more devolution”
      That is quite a naive outlook
      Consider that No devolution is on the table, the Vow on the Record is value and meaning less, Do you honestly think that the Westminster Government are going to anything?
      With at least 70 Conservative vocally against any more to Scotland, how would it pass ?
      and discount Milliband forming a government is not on the cards for him
      A No vote means we get screwed even further

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